Ok..good.....I will put the abstracts of the two that caught my eye here...i will work on getting copies but will hold off on purchasing them for a little while and see what if any coments can be gleened just from the free sample views ..there is still good Geocentric material here.......these particularly caugt my eye because of how recent they are and the nature of the topics under discusions...Would just to point out that a "machian universe" is a fancy way of saying a universe that goes around the earth.....as opposed to a "Relitivisit universe" where the earth is doing the moving.......the puch line is that although the names infact refer to the exact same equivilence principles of motion and gravitiaion, they are used in application to refer to two different models....Relitivisitic universe (helio centric) Machian Universe ( Geocentric) even though they are in essance one and the same physical construct....a clever way of confusing truth with lies by calling the truth the other name of the same lie you are trying to "sell" to begin with.........oh the fun just never stops... :-) Pulished in the Astrophysics and Space Science journel http://www.springerlink.com/content/lh316l0rnh44343v/ Published NOV 2007 Abstract We discuss astronomical and astrophysical evidence, which we relate to the principle of zero-total energy of the Universe, that imply several relations among the mass M, the radius R and the angular momentum L of a “large” sphere representing a Machian Universe. By calculating the angular speed, we find a peculiar centripetal acceleration for the Universe. This is an ubiquituous property that relates one observer to any observable. It turns out that this is exactly the anomalous acceleration observed on the Pioneers spaceships. We have thus shown that this anomaly is to be considered a property of the Machian Universe. We discuss several possible arguments against our proposal. http://www.springerlink.com/content/lh316l0rnh44343v/ Published OCT 2008Abstract The Machian Universe, is usually described with Newtonian Physics, We give an alternative General Relativistic picture for Mach’s Universe. As such, we show that, in the correct Machian limit, Schwarzschild’s metric is coherent with Robertson-Walker’s, on condition that there be a cosmological constant, or the Universe’s rotation—or both. It is now confirmed that the Universe is accelerating, so the former condition applies. The latter was also confirmed one more time with the recently discovered NASA space probes anomalies. From Kerr-Lense-Thirring solution, we find an inverse scale-factor dependent angular speed; we then, show that the cosmological “constant” may have Classically originated from a centrifugal acceleration field. --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: The Pioneer anomaly and a Machian universe To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 12:10 PM The first two are still on this forum. -----Original Message----- From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 24 May 2009 08:42:09 -0700 (PDT) To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: The Pioneer anomaly and a Machian universe i will work on this...and let you know if i can, but there is a free preview on that site i dont know if it is enouph of the paper to be os use ..but..would also like to see what Selbrede, Suginis or Bennet think of it....if i can find their address...... ________________________________ From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 10:05:35 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: The Pioneer anomaly and a Machian universe Allen, Not much use without the whole paper. Can anyone here get a copy? Neville. -----Original Message----- From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT) .....http://www.springerlink.com/content/lh316l0rnh44343v/ ________________________________ Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! ________________________________ Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out!