[geocentrism] Re: [Geocentric] Predestination
- From: "Martin G. Selbrede" <mselbrede@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:13:24 -0600
On Jan 30, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Martin G. Selbrede wrote:
[To open the heart or eyes] .... this is opportunity to
understand so that they can/ will respond
Opportunity to understand? But 1 Cor. 2:14 denies this to be possible
unless the Holy Spirit is already present and indwelling. "The
natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they
are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they
are spiritually discerned." As Paul says, "he cannot understand
them." What's all this talk of unregenerate people gaining
understanding in contradiction to this verse? Your twist on the
verse doesn't actually save your theory, it harms it. If Lydia is
brought to understanding of the things of the Spirit of God, then the
Holy Spirit has already regenerated her so that she can respond to
Paul's words. That was my explicitly stated position from the outset.
To profit in the Flesh is not the same as manifesting our choices
and or righteousness in the flesh
Surely, Allen, you're not arguing that unregenerate men can manifest
righteousness in the flesh. Not even a dyed-in-the-wool anti-
Calvinist like John Wesley would dare to teach that! Surely you
misspoke, and mean to say something different here, no?
Now VERY concerned,
Martin
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