[geocentrism] Re: Deceleration due to Earth's Gravity
- From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:22:11 +0000 (GMT)
Paul,
The paper that you refer to, regarding the feasibility of landing safely on
the Moon, is not currently up on the Internet, nor has it been for a long time.
It was taken down at about the same time that I removed one on Celestial Poles
and one on Mach's Principle. In fact, Bernie has long been awaiting the
"resurrection" of the last two.
I am currently working on satellites and, in particular, gravitational
fields. This work is having an impact on all of these previous papers, because
my research in this area is evolving.
You are partially correct in your claim that I have omitted an effect due to
the World's gravitational field, but when I dug out the old paper I saw that I
had always been meaning to put it in. (In the diagram, I have subtracted a
"Sa(t)" term, which was intended to be the term to which you refer. However, I
have neglected to add another such term for the increase in speed due to the
attraction of the Moon, which I have erroneously equated to the Sa(t) term in
the text. This is entirely my error.)
I hope that you can appreciate that a website has one great advantage over
printed matter, inasmuch as it allows for updated material. I also hope that
you can appreciate the fact that I update material as and when I am happy with
it (if ever, in some circumstances), and that I have not "sent you to Coventry."
Neville.
Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Posted 2007.02.02 12h20
Neville J
Another seven days have expired with no response on this matter -- now 21
days plus 10 months from first query.
In the week just passed, I have been ploughing through the past postings on
//www.freelists.org/list/geocentrism (of which I was previously unaware)
and found within the usual lively
debate this from you --
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[geocentrism] Re: Geosynchronous Satellites
From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:11:00 +0100 (BST)
xxxxx,
Having thought about your post again ...
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I think that I have been open and honest on this forum
and have usually bent over backwards to answer queries
from all quarters.
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Sometimes I wonder whether the time I spend each night ...
Also, I tolerate ridicule and hostility from
geocentrists, as well as the usual amount from
so-called creationists (who accept certain verses in
the Bible, but reject others in favour of "science").
Perhaps ...
Neville.
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Regarding the paragraph in quotes (lots of them) why do I seem to be numbered
among those you have ignored? You
place yourself in the public arena, you make public statements, you invite
public criticism. If I find an item
which, in my opinion at least, is incorrect, can you be surprised that I make
the expected response? You have
made sustained responses to some quite sustained criticism from others - why
am I different?
Come now, face the issue! Why did you not factor in the Deceleration due to
Earth's Gravity?
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Posted Fri, 26/1/07 7:07 PM
Neville J
Another seven days have expired with no response on this matter -- now 14
days plus 10 months from first query.
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Posted Fri, 19/1/07 2:38 PM
Neville J
I appreciate that you are busy with the current theological debate, but
notwithstanding this, I ask you again as
I asked you seven days ago when I reiterated an unanswered question from ten
months earlier -- why, in your
scientific paper "On the feasability of landing a man on the Moon ..." have
you not factored in the deceleration
due to the Earth's gravity?
Should you need to refer to the source, for your convenience, I have attached
an extract of the relevant portions
of the original paper.
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Posted Fri, 12/1/07 2:58 PM
Neville J
... and the matter of the Earth's deceleration of the Apollo vehicle?
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(p/o) Posted Thu 2/3/06 1:43 PM
The real problem I have however is your sums for determining the velocity of
the rocket on arrival at the Moon's
orbit. After correctly calculating the necessary departure velocity, some
27,580 mph, you subtract the 8709 mph
available deceleration obtained from Table 1 to obtain 16,546 mph + S(sub)a
relative to the approaching Moon.
Come now Neville - I was watching your left hand - you just can't get away
with that! Why haven't you factored in
the deceleration due to the Earth's gravity from the moment the engines were
cut off? I can't calculate it on the
fly, but I'm sure you can - you invoke maths at the drop of a hat.
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Paul D
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