[geocentrism] Re: CAM and CoE

  • From: Mike <mboyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:15:08 +0100

>>Gary L. Shelton wrote:
>> > Mike, I have one question on the topic you and Dr. Jones have been
>> > discussing.  If you agree that the earth is losing energy to
>> > dissipation to space (if I have understood rightly), would the
>> > eventual loss of energy finally at some time result in a loss of AM?
>> > I mean, we're talking billions of years of earth history here.  Isn't
>> > AM a manifestation of energy?
>>
>>No.  Imagine you're floating is space, if you twist something you can't
>>help twisting yourself in the opposite direction so that the total AM of
>>you and thing you twisted is the same as it was before you twisted it.
>>You both then have have kinetic energy where you didn't before, but your
>>total AM hasn't changed.  If you are in friction with the thing you
>>twisted then eventually you and the object will no longer be spinning
>>relative to each other, all the kinetic energy will be disapated as
>>heat.  The total AM will not have changed throughout.  If you think it
>>would have changed, which direction do you think it would have changed in?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mike
> 
> Gary 10/16:    Mike, I guess I understand what you're talking about with the
> Angular Momentum being conserved between two bodies well enough.  For every
> action there's an equal and opposite reaction, I suppose.  With the two
> things involved it is a closed kind of deal.

But the point is this isn't completley closed.  The kinectic engergy is 
disapted as heat while the angular momentum remains constant.  I was 
showing you that loss of kinetic energy is not necessarily loss of 
angular momentum.  Do you agree with that statement?

> I think my question centers around the fact that I'm not imagining a second
> body in my question.  I'm thinking about the predictable amount of energy
> loss from the earth due to friction with aether (if such can be agreed
> upon), or friction with the sun's gravity, the moon's attraction, solar
> wind, the drag of man-made satellites, rocket launches, or a number of other
> things I probably am unaware of that could affect the earth's rotational
> speed.  I am thinking that such effects would be outside of any "closed"
> system between the earth and any other specific body.  And some of them have
> no doubt been continuing for billions of years.  Wouldn't this loss of
> energy due to friction cause a proportionate loss in AM?
> 
> I hope that makes sense.

It does but it's no use us continuing to more complex considerations 
until we agree on what happens in the simplist case imaginable.

Regards,
Mike.


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