Group, This is one of two solid responses I received from BA as to why the solar eclipse does not prove geocentrism, but rather works as predicted. The other one involves an attachment but basically says the same thing as this one. This is what the other side says.... Gary ----------- Gary, I suggest that you read that whole thread because your queries are answered therein by ToSeek (the thread also includes some masterly work by milli360 - now A Thousand Pardons - where he found errors buried deep in Dr Jones' code). Part of my humble contribution to that thread included the following that may be of some help to you in understanding the matter: Quote: In the Earth/Moon/Sun situation, regard the Earth & Sun as fixed in relative position. For the moon's shadow to fall on the Earth, the 'tube of light' that the moon must traverse is ~2 degrees. To travel 2 degrees in its orbit takes the moon ~3.5 hours, and so the shadow will cover the diameter of the Earth in roughly that time. However, it takes Joe Citizen standing on the surface of the Earth 12 hours to make the same 'journey'. Both shadow and Joe are moving from West to East, but the shadow is faster and so will outstrip Joe from the West to East. But how does Joe see the moon itself? In the 12 hours that Joe can see the moon he is moving from West to East through 180 degrees. However, the moon in this time has only moved from West to East through ~7 degrees. The moon will therefore appear to be moving from East to West from Joe's perspective. So this model predicts that the moon will traverse the sky from East to West, but during an eclipse, it's shadow will go from West to East. Which, of course, is just what we see. The reason for this is that the position/motion of the moon in the sky from the perspective of the Earth depends on the respective angular velocities of the Earth & Moon.....whereas the position/motion of the moon's shadow on the surface of the Earth depends almost entirely on the moon's tangential velocity. GaryLShelton@xxxxxxxxxxx