- I went to Control Data way back when.... What PT class were you in? I was in both PT-2 and PT-5 (back in 1969-1970). ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Lusicic <lusicic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: [geocache] Re: Branson Caching Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:31:35 -0500 >- > >I think I used that machine when I went to Control Data >Institute. They shared it with SLU. > >Steve Bromley wrote: > - >Nope, but close. It was a CDC3300 (Old Control Data >machine with 32K and a Floating Point Unit). It was in the >basment of the Pink Building on the SLU campus and wouldn't >fit into my current house. It ran off of 220 3-Phase >power. ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Oelschlaeger" <roelschlaeger@xxxxxxxxx> >To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [GeoStL] Re: [geocache] Re: Branson Caching >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:22:51 -0500 > > .. must have been a PDP-11; hardly anyone else used >octal... Bob (aka roelsch) >On 6/14/07, Steve Bromley <bromley@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I just absolutely love geek talk. Brings my back to >my days of punch cards, wiring boards, and using Octal. >Lets code it in machine language.... >Steve Bromley >bromley@xxxxxxx > ------------------------------ >*From:* geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Robert >Oelschlaeger *Sent:* 14 June 2007 Thursday 9:38 PM >*To:* geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >*Subject:* [geocache] [GeoStL] Re: Branson Caching >For the entire file, or for each record of say 64 bytes, >like a Motorola S-record file? >8-bit, 12-bit 16-bit or 32-bit? Which polynomial? >CCITT-16? CCITT-32? preset to all 1's first? complemented >at the end? >Single-error detecting? Single-error correcting, >double-error detecting Hamming code? That would add three >bits per byte, I'd guess. >Adding just a single parity bit to each character add >about 10%, so we would have 4.3860 years. >Adding the file checksum would be negligibly different. >Adding a 16-bit CRC per line of 64 bytes adds 3.125% >Grand total is about 4.5 years. >Any other requests? >Bob (aka roelsch) >On 6/14/07, Enormous Richard <_rnx_@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > - >very nice 8^) > what if i wanted to add a redundancy checksum >------ Original Message ------ >*Received: *Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:16:59 PM EDT >*From: *"Robert Oelschlaeger" <roelschlaeger@xxxxxxxxx> >*To: *geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >*Subject: *[GeoStL] Re: Branson Caching >3.9873 years if you're talking 1M = 1048576 bytes :-) >Bob (aka roelsch) >On 6/14/07, Robert Oelschlaeger < > > roelschlaeger@xxxxxxxxx > wrote: >I get 3.8026 years, figuring four seconds per bit, 10 >bits (start/stop/8 data -- this is serial >asynchronous, after all) per byte, and 365.25 days >per year: >octave:1> rate=0.25 >rate = 0.25000 >octave:2> bytes=3e6 >bytes = 3000000 >octave:3> bits=10*bytes >bits = 30000000 >octave:4> seconds = bits/rate >seconds = 120000000 >octave:5> hours = seconds/3600 >hours = 3.3333e+04 >octave:6> days = hours/24 >days = 1388.9 >octave:7> years = days/365.25 >years = 3.8026 >octave:8> >On 6/14/07, HoosierDaddy <_rnx_@xxxxxxx > wrote: > > - >i wonder how long it would take to send 3Mb via >smoke signals >------ Original Message ------ >*Received: *Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:06:39 PM EDT >*From: *"Robert Oelschlaeger" ><roelschlaeger@xxxxxxxxx> *To: >*geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject: *[GeoStL] Re: >Branson Caching >Must be all those folks trying to escape the chain >of being shackled to their high speed DSL :-) >On 6/14/07, Tim and Pam < > > timpam2mocachers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > I wish we could leave our house unlocked. >Washington is starting to grow like St.Charles >did 20 years ago. It is scary to look around at >the changes made in just the last 6 months L > Tim > www.tueltzen.smugmug.com > ------------------------------ >*From:* geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On >Behalf Of *HoosierDaddy *Sent:* Thursday, June 14 >, 2007 6:38 PM *To:* geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >*Subject:* [GeoStL] Re: Branson Caching > we all make choices that have consequences. just >keep in mind all the privlidges that living in >Washington provides to keep your minds off the > > other troubles. i bet you can leave you front door >unlocked > > without the fear of a crackhead walking >through it and stealing your melba toast. 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