[GeoStL] Re: St Peters geocaches: trouble again?

  • From: Susan Ring <susanmring@xxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:24:24 -0500

Yeah, Ken,  I think you're right.  The more I thought about it the more I think 
wait and see is the way to go for now.  I just wanted to see if anybody else 
had heard a buzz like this.

I'll probably head out to the lake soon and I'll see if my cache is still 
there. To be honest, Lakeside 370 is a tough place to hide caches anyway, what 
with the lack of trees and protected wetlands everywhere.  It if turns out that 
this park becomes off-limits it's not a big deal.

Still a great place to go for everything else: kayaking, running, walking, 
fishing, birdwatching-yay!  Happy Easter everybody!


On Apr 8, 2012, at 5:28 AM, Ken Auld wrote:

> I work for the St. Peters Utility Department and have not heard a thing.  I 
> also have several caches in St. Peters but there are some in the parks 
> department that are not friendly to geocaching.  I would wait and if there is 
> a problem check with Wes.
>  
> Ken Auld
>  
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Peters geocaches: trouble again?
> From: gln.htc@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 17:12:19 -0500
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> I have not heard anything from Wes and he just approved a cache for us not 
> long ago. (I think) 
> 
> You have worked well with him. I believe that if there were problems he would 
> have mentioned it. 
> 
> Glenn 
> Via iP-4s
> 
> 
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Susan Ring <susanmring@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Here's the reply I got about St. Peters geocaching (see my previous post: 
> Fwd: [LOG] Owner: MSAA couldn't find It's a Goose, It's a Plane, It's a 
> Pterodactyl!)
> 
> This is troubling.  Anybody else out there who has looked for a cache in St. 
> Peters and found it missing?  
> 
> I find it hard to believe that the rangers would take the time to go out and 
> pull them all.  I'll investigate as soon as I can.  I'd appreciate help from 
> anyone else who has caches in our parks, who by default would have talked to 
> the rangers over the years.
> 
> Susan
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Mike Hoefle <mchoefle@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: April 7, 2012 3:45:53 PM CDT
> To: "susanmring@xxxxxxx" <susanmring@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [GEO] rocksusan contacting MSAA from Geocaching.com
> 
> The person that told us this information was not a park ranger.  She was a 
> employee that works in the office there.    We specifically asked her if she 
> knew about the cache near the office, and that is when she told us  they gave 
> been removed.  She told us that people had been digging in an attempt to find 
> the cache near the office.  The employee also said the rangers were the ones 
> that have discontinued geocaching in the parks.   We tried to find another 
> one that is at Lakeside 370, but couldn't find it.  We also tried to find a 
> geocache in the park by St. Peters City Hall, which we have found in the 
> past, and it was also missing.  Please advise what you find out.  If your 
> geocache is there, we will go back and try to find it.  
> 
> Thanks for the email.  This was a family adventure this morning, that turned 
> out to be a bit if a disappointment.  We are pretty new to the geocaching 
> thing.  
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 12:42, "Geocaching" <noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi there MSAA,
> 
> I'm the cache owner of the It's a Goose, It's a Plane.. cache over by 
> Lakeside 370.  I'll go check on the cache in a day or so and make sure it's 
> still there.  Once in a while it gets knocked off its perch and falls on the 
> ground.
> 
> I'm curious about the employee who told you that geocaching is no longer 
> allowed.  Was it a ranger or just someone who works at the park?  We have 
> explicit permission from the rangers to place geocaches in all of St. Peters 
> parks and so far no one has contacted me about removing my caches.  I'll look 
> into this further.  Sometimes the people who work over there don't have the 
> complete story about caching.
> 
> Just so you know, geocaching.com forbids digging any kind of hole for cache 
> placement, and when someone rarely violates that rule it's usually discovered 
> pretty fast and the cache is archived by the reviewer.  So if someone in the 
> parks thinks that digging is a problem they are misinformed..
> 
> Hope you have lots of fun out there on the caching trail and maybe I'll run 
> into you sometime!
> Susan
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