[GeoStL] Re: OT? Resource for determining when it gets "Dark"?

  • From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:29:30 -0500

It should have read... "You think you are one..."

LOL
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Libby Morehead 
  To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:19 PM
  Subject: [GeoStL] Re: OT? Resource for determining when it gets "Dark"?


  No wonder your caches demonstrate a stroke of genius. You are one I think.

  L
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: GC-RGS 
    To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:50 PM
    Subject: [GeoStL] Re: OT? Resource for determining when it gets "Dark"?


    Here's something that Google picked out. From this info, it becomes "truly 
dark" (Astronomical Twilight) when the sun's center is 18 degrees below the 
horizon. Now all you need to do is determine how many minutes it takes the sun 
to drop 18 degrees and you'll have the exact time :-)
    SUNRISE/SUNSET AND TWILIGHTS
    At the last public open house I was asked to explain why it took so long to 
see any stars. I started to go into the light-pollution issues and how all of 
the unshielded lights were robbing us of our night skies and the persons who 
had asked me the question stopped me and said, "No, that's not what we meant. 
We see sunrise and sunset times in the newspaper but its still light out long 
after sunset, how come?"

    Well, this prompted me to try and explain the different twilights, and I 
thought I might share the Royal Greenwich Observatory's official definitions.

    Sunrise and Sunset - The times of Sunrise and Sunset refer to the times 
when the Sun's upper limb, as affected by refraction, is on the true horizon of 
an observer at sea-level. This occurs when the Sun's center is 50 arcminutes 
below the true horizon, the upper limb then being 34 arcminutes just more than 
the Sun's apparent diameter) below the true horizon.

    Twilights - There are three different definitions of twilight.

      Civil Twilight, when the Sun's center is 6 degrees below the horizon, is 
roughly equivalent to between 30 and 60 minutes after sunset. The brightest 
stars are visible and at sea the horizon is clearly defined. 

      Nautical Twilight, when the Sun's center is 12 degrees below the horizon, 
is to all intents and purposes the time when it is dark. For nautical purposes 
it is that time when the horizon ceases to be clearly visible and it is 
impossible to determine altitudes with reference to the horizon.

      Astronomical Twilight, when the Sun's center is 18 degrees below the 
horizon, is when it is truly dark and no remnant of the Sun's afterglow can be 
seen.  It is possible to see the Zodiacal light which comes from light from the 
Sun reflected by small particles between the Earth and the Sun; this can be 
mistaken for the Sun's afterglow.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: tnands 
      To: Geocaching Freelist 
      Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:41 PM
      Subject: [GeoStL] OT? Resource for determining when it gets "Dark"?


      Is there a rule of thumb, or better yet a chart, for determining when 
"Dark" sets in after sunset?  We're planning an outdoor movie night for our 
city on September 19 and no one is sure when it will actually be dark if sunset 
is 7:02.  Does "Dark" differ depending on the time of year?

      This also fits in with the idea of the night time cache being discussed 
earlier.  

      Chicken wings and brown rice - last night's dinner -- which no longer 
makes this post completely off topic. 

      Nancy

      BTW -- Andrew -- we'll expect to see you all there!  


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