- I agree that some disturbance is good, but I would discourage tearing apart rotting logs and stumps because they are home to many creatures. No, i'm not a tree hugger either. :-) Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Shilt" <webscouter@xxxxxxxxx> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: LEAVE NO TRACE > - > Hi Fast Louie > > I have found that you can find almost all caches without disturbing the > area. It takes a little more time but if you sit and think for a minute > and look around you can usually find the "out of place" item. I have > also found that a good strong flashlight is helpful even in the middle > of the day. > > The other think to remember is that sometimes disturbing an area can > actually help the area. Loosening the soil a bit can help new seedlings > take root. Tracking through the underbrush can help distribute those > seeds. Pulling apart a rotten stump helps it decay providing nutrients > to the soil. > > My philosophy is that we should have an equal impact to the creatures of > an area. If I can leave without creating more signs than a buck I am > happy. By taking out the trash that I find I have improved the area. > This isn't to say that I turn everything over haphazardly but if some > leaves are stirred up I don't feel that I have cause any harm. Piling > all the leaves to one side would be different. > > Jim "webscouter" Shilt > > Louis Bielicke wrote: > >>- >> With only a short time under my belt and just a handful of finds, I am >>finding myself more and more concerned with upholding a LEAVE NO TRACE >>philosophy as my son and I have chose to pass on quite a few caches after >>arriving and not having quick luck in spotting the item. We definitely >>enjoy the aspect of the hunt, but also are doing our best to stay within >>the >>ethics of LNT and have found it disappointing on more than one occasion. >> A challenging hiding spot can also be somewhat detrimental to the >>surrounding environment. I hope that my son and I can continue to enjoy >>this endeavor while not having to root so much to get to the prize. We >>have >>chose to not necessarily post our Not Founds as I quickly realized they >>were >>going to add up fast. >> Are we taking the wrong approach and making this harder than it really >> is? >> Also, I am very interested in the philosophy of the SLAGA group relative >>to upholding a Lave No Trace approach. >> >>FastLouie >> >> >> **************************************** >> Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com >> Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching >> Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html >> **************************************** >>To unsubscribe from this list: >> send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in >> the Subject field >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > **************************************** > Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com > Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html > **************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list: > send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > > > > **************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html **************************************** To unsubscribe from this list: send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field