Ah, OK. I get it now.... For someone going from RedHat to Debian, I recommend it as Apt-get makes it all worth it but expect to learn a few things! Debian and Gnome.... Sound issues, had sound just fine in Gnome, nada from the command line. Turns out Gnome uses ESD (Esound) as it's sound sub-system. Gnome starts Esound by default and it locks the /dev/audio and /dev/dsp ports! So thanks to a search on the Internet I've got an answer. First, in the gnome control-panel ones disables starting the sound server in Gnome. Two, edit /etc/esound/esd.conf and set autospawn to 1. I went ahead and shutdown the system as I had some some other hardware reconfig stuff anyhow and now everything works! Sweet! BTW, for command line stuff, you need to make sure you have versions that support the Esound (ESD) daemon. So, the IBM Daully is finally ready to go and I've got some time on Saturday night to go hang out somewhere. Sweet! I'm outta here.... Turbine on Sunday! From the Goose lab. Goose To post to the list send email to <frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list website at <//www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana>