I had been told that only I/O points were to be counted in point licensing. This may be due to the short coming of alarming for RIN/BIN blocks in FDSIs, which require duplication with AIN/CIN blocks in the CP270 to maintain the alarm function. A second point license required by Foxboro for these non-I/O points would be Foxboro double-tapping the customer in my opinion. Foxboro's point licensing is confusing at best, as point licenses are sold for FDSIs (FBM23x) and CP270s at different prices, yet the points all are installed in the CP270. I just don't get it. Even if no license is required for the additional non-I/O blocks, they are still an additional load on the CP270 that would not be required if Foxboro fixes their RIN/DIN alarming problem in the future. The only good point is that these great and powerful new CP270s (all hail the CP270!) can much more than handle the load of twice as many blocks. How about a solid answer from Foxboro concerning this Point Licensing Issue? Consider this an official request by all customers planning upgrades, and yep, I know there are Foxboro Reps reading this who can give us a definitive answer. This issue reminds me of the vagueness associated with the "Additional Display Managers" license at Version 4.0 (One or multiple licenses required). Thanks, Jack Easley -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph M. Riccardi Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:13 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [foxboro] Version 8.4 RIN/BIN blocks with alarm capabilities? When? All-Knowing List, One of our 1st tasks in 2008 will be to build blocks in our new FCP270/FBM233 A-B ControlLogix Gateway. In one area of the plant, we basically use the Foxboro IA System as our HMI (displays, alarming, trends, historian, etc.) over A-B ControlLogix PLCs implementing the control and logic functions. Once we originally figured out the new Gateway, we anticipated having to build 2 blocks per analog/digital input; 1 RIN/BIN each to get the data and 1 AIN/CIN each to include the alarming capabilities. Rumor has it that the next release (V8.4?) will add alarming capabilities to the RIN and/or BIN blocks? Since we have >1,000 I/O points involved, and if both blocks are considered in the I/O count license(?), I would try to stall if I knew the rumor details and the release date is sooner rather than later. Can anyone confirm the details and guestimate when this release will hit the streets? Thanks. Joseph M. Riccardi DCS Services - Industrial Process Control Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "To give real service you must add something that cannot be bought or measured with money; and that is sincerity and integrity." - Donald A. Adams -- No attachments (even text) are allowed -- -- Type: application/ms-tnef -- File: winmail.dat _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Djoin to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dleave Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, =0A= contains or may contain confidential information intended only for the =0A= addressee. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, be =0A= advised that any reading, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying=0A= or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If= =0A= you have received this message in error, please notify the sender =0A= immediately by reply message and delete this email message and any=0A= attachments from your system. _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave