Stan, Sorry to take so long to comment - my job got in the way of my hobby. :) Re: we are having to abandon a superior platform for an inferior (and less proven) one Clearly, this is an area where we have to prove ourselves. We believe that will happen and in the meantime we are working to make it possible for you to retain the functionality that you have for years to come. Re: the features that the new tools have and would like to see them available for the investment we have already made in I/A If by this you mean that the tool must run under Solaris we have a problem or two: 1) Cost of development for both is quite high 2) Many of the features that we need or want to leverage aren't available in Solaris. As an example of something that we can't do under Solaris, consider the next generate of IACC. It will have a drawing component that is MS's Visio. The use of Visio to create loop diagrams reduced our development time, increased the functionality of the configuration tool, and reduced our coding errors. This is a huge step over the loop drawing tool in IACC V2.x which is a homebrew and quite limited. If on the other hand, you want the new tools to work with and preserve your existing intellectual and physical property, we agree and we are working to extend their current reach. For example, a recent IACC release added more 'A-style' stations and we hope to add more in the next couple of releases despite the fact that these are modules that are no longer for sale. Moreover, the IACC can configure either Solaris hosted or Windows hosted controllers. Clearly, large portions of your investment are preserved by the new tools. Regards, Alex Johnson Invensys Process Systems Invensys Systems, Inc. 10707 Haddington Houston, TX 77043 713.722.2859 (voice) 713.722.2700 (switchboard) 713.932.0222 (fax) ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stan Ruth Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:37 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Super Duper Tools, was: IACC Product and Integratio n with existin g I/A tools I think that many of the legacy users (those of us who have had I/A since nearly the beginning) who are heavily invested in Unix feel that we are reaching the end of the line for innovation on that platform. What concerns us "Unix fiends" is that 1) we feel like we are having to abandon a superior platform for an inferior (and less proven) one, and 2) that we like the features that the new tools have and would like to see them available for the investment we have already made in I/A. Stan M. Ruth, P.E. Process Control Engineer Huntsman Re: That would make them compelling by default, wouldn't it? The OS used by the application is one factor in whether something is compelling or not. As for being forced to the new OS because new applications are being built for a different OS, if you like what you have, we are continuing to support it. Regards, Alex Johnson Invensys Process Systems Invensys Systems, Inc. 10707 Haddington Houston, TX 77043 713.722.2859 (voice) 713.722.2700 (switchboard) 713.932.0222 (fax) ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Duc M Do Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:42 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Super Duper Tools, was: IACC Product and Integration with existin g I/A tools At 03:19 PM 2/4/05 -0500, Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) wrote: >I stated in front of several hundred users in San Antonio that >our (IPS') goal is to make our applications so valuable that >you want to upgrade your systems to use them. > >I strongly believe this. If we don't make our offering >compelling we aren't succeeding. Alex, I believe you are sincere in this belief. But at the same time, from a customer point of view, how can one not be a tad bit cynical when the only applications being developed are specific to one OS. That would make them compelling by default, wouldn't it? Duc _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. 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