Thats's indeed what we're looking for....Our operators have plenty to do, getting to the info they need about an alarm (what is it, which action is he supposed to take) should be easy and straightforward. Everything else (the actual alarm management) is for process engineering. Looking for something simple, easy to view but also easy to maintain (by engineering) Something like a database on a server, selecting the C:B: from the CAD and hitting a button should open a viewer on that screen, showing the action to be taken. Already got some interesting idea's from the list, (as usual) thanks everyone! Rgds, Dirk OK, I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but I guess my point was that calling up a browser and several clicks and some time later to get the data is too much to ask of an operator when the plant is falling down around his knees. You want it where said harried operator clicks a button on the CAD and, to paraphrase Emeril Lagasse, BAM! and the information he needs is there. No part of PSS is capable of meeting that kind of performance and ease of use requirement in my experience. You need a lean, mean, external viewer. It can get data from PSS on a regular download basis, though. Corey From: "Theobald, Martin" <Martin.Theobald@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 10/17/2011 08:12 AM Subject: Re: [foxboro] Alarm management Sent by: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Corey, If you talk to our North American Alarm Management Team then there are ways that the data can be pulled out of the D&R component on demand. Granted it is easier on MS Windows platform where you can use the built in web browser to present that data. I have been told that it should also be possible to do the same using browsers that are available for the Solaris boxes. My personal experience is on the I/A Series MS Windows platform. All, For those with an Alarm Management Tool already in place, then it maybe possible that parts of the PlantState Suite (PSS) Advanced Alarm Elements module can be licensed on a stand-a-lone basis. Regards, Martin Theobald -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corey R Clingo Sent: 17 October 2011 13:31 To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Alarm management My experience with PSS' D&R tool leads me to conclude that something along these lines would not quite have the immediacy needed for process operations. At the least you would have to dump that info out of PSS and put it into some sort of viewer that could access it quickly and easily for the operators. And if you are not on Windows, and don't want to install rdesktop or something similar on your Sun boxes, that's your only option. Corey From: "Theobald, Martin" <Martin.Theobald@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 10/17/2011 02:49 AM Subject: Re: [foxboro] Alarm management Sent by: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Dirk, Re: First problem: displaying "what to do" information If you were using the Invensys preferred Alarm Management Tool (PlantState Suite) then the information from the alarm review process could be captured directly in to the Documentation & Rationalisation (D&R) component of the Advanced Alarm Elements module. It is then pretty straight forward to present this information to the user using picks on the Current Alarm Display (CAD). Some users consider the D&R component to be Master Alarm Database for the asset. 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