Re: [foxboro] AW: setpars utility

  • From: "Johnson, Alex (Foxboro)" <ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:16:15 -0400

I sorry, but I'm not able to do that at this time. Up to my eyeballs in my
"real" job.


Regards,


Alex Johnson
System Products - Invensys Systems, Inc.
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        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Weiss, Andreas [SMTP:Andreas.Weiss@xxxxxxxxx]
        Sent:   Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:59 AM
        To:     foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject:        [foxboro] AW: setpars utility


        Hi Alex,

        please send us the ultimative script which allows us to change all
        LIMOPT-values.

        Many users will get the problem with the next update.

        Regards,

        Andreas



        -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
        Von: Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) [mailto:ajohnson@xxxxxxxxxxx]
        Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. April 2002 08:53
        An: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Betreff: Re: [foxboro] setpars utility



        Nothing changed with setpars is recorded the workfile.


        Uploads will only update the workfile with those parameters that are
        supposed to change.


        Don't use setpars if you want the changes to be permanent. Use the
ICC
        Driver Task.


        Regards,


        Alex Johnson
        System Products - Invensys Systems, Inc.
        10707 Haddington
        Houston, TX 77043
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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Ajay_Tathgir@xxxxxxx [SMTP:Ajay_Tathgir@xxxxxxx]
                Sent:   Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:20 PM
                To:     foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject:        Re: [foxboro] setpars utility



                Kevin

                A small question. Are there any others parameters which
don't
        get
                updated on doing a upload when changed via setpars, or for
that
                matter is it all non-settable parameters.

                I once changed a description of AIN block via setpars, but
                never could get it uploaded via upload.


                Thanks & Regards


                Ajay Tathgir
                Reliance Industries Limited
                Mumbai - India






                Fitzgerrell Kevin <fitzgerrell@xxxxxxxxx>@freelists.org on
        10-04-2002
                10:52:42

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                James,

                Take a look at the MODOPT setting in the PIDA blocks that
stayed
        at
                LIMOPT=3D3.  I think you'll find that they don't have an
integral
        term,
                ie P or PD.  In the P only blocks (MODOPT=3D1) the
controller will
        show
                LIMOPT=3D3 regardless of it's state in the ICC (I didn't
check the
        PD
                option), ie. in a PIDA block with MODOPT=3D1 and LIMOPT=3D1
showing
        in
        ICC,
                SELECT will show LIMOPT=3D3.  If you change MODOPT to 5, and
make
        no
                change to LIMOPT, SELECT will show MODOPT=3D5 and
LIMOPT=3D1.

                You may want to reconsider your use of setpars to make these
        changes.
                Because LIMOPT is not a settable parameter, changes made by
        setpars
        to
                it will not be updated to the station workfiles with an
upload.
        This
                results in a permanent mismatch between station and
workfile.
        Savealls
                are generated based on the station workfiles, so if you ever
        load
        from
                a saveall diskette these changes would be lost.
Additionally,
        setpars
                doesn't checkpoint, so until the stations are checkpointed
after
        the
                changes are made, a CP reboot would cause these changes to
be
        lost.
                Finally, consider the scenario where a P only block is
changed
        to a
        PI.
                 If LIMOPT had originally been set to 2 in the ICC (or via
                iccdrvr.tsk), when the later change to PI mode is made,
LIMOPT
        will
                still be 2 (and will now show 2 instead of 3 in SELECT).  If
        LIMOPT
        was
                set with setpars, a subsequent change in MODOPT would cause
        LIMOPT
        to
                revert to the value in the station workfile, probably 1.

                The iccdrvr.tsk is fairly easy to use for bulk editing,
makes
        changes
                in both CP and station workfile and does checkpoints.
        Additionally,
                small typos are significantly less likely to cause major
damage
        to
        the
                control database (-c vs -C for instance).

                Regards,

                Kevin FitzGerrell
                Systems Engineer
                Foxboro New Zealand
                +64 9 573 7690
                kevin.fitzgerrell@xxxxxxxxxxxx
                fitzgerrell@xxxxxxxxx


                 --- "Hyde, James" <James.Hyde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >
                > Hi,
                >
                >
                > With the recommendation from Foxboro in the :
                > Customer Advisory
                > PIDA Block Behavior with V6.3 CS Release
                > April 1, 2002
                >
                > We use a lot of PIDA's and, we did have most of the
LIMOPT's
        set
        to
                > 1.  I
                > used the setpars utility to change the LIMOPTS to 2.
                >
                > /opt/fox/bin/tools/setpars -Ucp**** -tpida -mlimopt=3D2
        -gIknowwhatido
                >
                > This only change the parameters that were set as 1 to a 2.
It
        did
                > not
                > change the parameters that were set as 3 to a 2.
                > Does anyone know why?
                >
                >
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