RE: Interesting Observation

  • From: "Mark Fugatt" <mark@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:40:22 -0400

Yep, I was in Eugene, Monday, Tuesday and flew home last night

-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:37 PM
To: [ExchangeList]
Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Interesting Observation

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No. Don't tell me. You were in Oregon on Monday. Dag nab it. So was I. Flew
out at 1:15 PM.

So close, yet so far...

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Fugatt [mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:12 PM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Interesting Observation
> 
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> 
> I agree 100% John, it was a long flight home from Oregon (left at 2am 
> and got in my house an 2.30pm), and I was not really thinking clearly 
> when I posted :-)
> 
> Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:01 PM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Interesting Observation
> 
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> 
> > I was teaching an Exchange 2003 support class for Symantec this 
> > week, so that their gold and platinum support guys had a good 
> > understanding of how Exchange really works :-), he talked about log 
> > files, and one of the guys asked what would happen if you created a 
> > new log file, for example, the
> last
> > log file is E0000001.LOG and you create E0000002.log manually.
> >
> > We tried it to see, and the effect was that the Outlook clients 
> > would hang when trying to send mail, until you deleted the manually 
> > created log file, the other effect was when you performed an online 
> > backup the backup would fail, and then dismount all the Stores in 
> > the Storage Group that you were trying to backup, this then led them 
> > to ask what type of security risk
> this
> > would be, if someone managed to create a worm that created a log 
> > file manually it would bring down all the Stores when you perform a
backup.
> 
> 1. The worm would have to reach the server. Defense rule: All 
> computers
must
> have AV installed to protect the server itself.
> 2. The worm would have to get past the firewall. Defense rule: All
computers
> must be behind a firewall.
> 3. The worm would have to be executed by e-mail if not through the
firewall.
> Defense ruleA: All incoming e-mail must be scanned for viruses, 
> vulnerabilities and possible malicious content, ie executable attachments.
> Defense ruleB: Generally, you should not be viewing e-mail on a server.
> 
> So, the way I see it, if the worm is able to execute on the server in 
> the first place, you have other problems to deal with.
> 
> However, having said that, that is a real problem, although with 
> proper defences in place, the probability of it occurring is 
> minimized. If there
is
> a way that behavior can be changed/protected, it should be looked into 
> and work needed weighted out.
> 
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
> 
> 
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