[etni] Re: Fwd: Fwd: This is from an article on class size in Victoria Australia
- From: carmen lewitus <carsabale@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Michele Ben <mggben@xxxxxxxxx>, etni.list@xxxxxxxxx, ETNI <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 10:16:31 +0300
I am comparing mentality,cultures and attitudes to learning. Believe me
you can teach badly with 15kids in the class and well with 40 + kids in a
class. Perhaps some students are lemons, but are neither spinach nor apples.
On Sep 5, 2014 11:56 PM, <mggben@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It's a homogenous population and the kids sent to private English schools
> there are also from a certain economic bracket. You're comparing apples and
> spinach.
> Michele
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> *From: * carsabale <carsabale@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Date: *Fri, 05 Sep 2014 20:47:14 +0300
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> *Subject: *RE: [etni] Re: Fwd: Fwd: This is from an article on class size
> in Victoria Australia
>
> You might find this rediculous, but when I taught in China for six weeks,
> there were between 60 and70 kids in the class. And guess what? There were
> no discipline problems and everyone actually learned English. When I first
> asked if there were discipline problems, they didn't even understand what I
> was talking about.
> Carmen
>
> (I do hope this email will appear on etni)
> Thanks
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Michele Ben <mggben@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 05/09/2014 2:01 PM (GMT+02:00)
> To: ETNI <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,galitbdolach@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [etni] Re: Fwd: Fwd: This is from an article on class size in
> Victoria Australia
>
>
> We teach larger classes, we teach more hours and get paid less than in
> almost all OECD countries.
> Michele
> On Sep 5, 2014 8:54 AM, "ETNI list" <etni.list@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Galit Bdolach <galitbdolach@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [etni] Fwd: This is from an article on class size in
> > Victoria Australia
> >
> > I guess we have gotten so used to crowded classes here in Israel
> > nobody ever thought it is not the case in other places around the
> > world.. My daughter went to first and second grade in Oklahoma in the
> > US and first year she had 18 kids, second year 22 - those numbers were
> > considered perfectly normal and average. Finally people here are
> > starting to realize that maybe just maybe those poor test result in
> > international testing as well as the constant decline in the average
> > scores have something to do with the actuall size of our classes and
> > not the quality of our teachers or the number of hours they teach. We
> > can only hope the government will take it more seriously, look at what
> > goes on around the world and come with the right conclusion (and the
> > money) to make a real change within the schools starting with reducing
> > the number of kids across all levels.
> > Galit
> >
> >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Michele Ben <mggben@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: This is from an article on class size in Victoria Australia
> > >
> > > Amazing. They teach with almost half the number of kids in a class
> than
> > we do!
> > >
> > > "Victorian class sizes have generally declined over the last 15 years
> > > ��� averaging 22 students at primary-level and about 21 at secondary
> > > this year.
> > >
> > > The suggested class size is an average 26 students at primary school
> ���
> > > provided an average of 21 children is maintained from Prep to Year 2
> ���
> > > and up to 25 students at secondary school.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/guidelines-on-class-sizes-could-be-removed-after-report-shows-they-might-not-impact-academic-performance/story-fni0fit3-1227043088348
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