----- Original Message ----- From: laurie ornstein - laurenmadeline@xxxxxxxxx Subject: old, new, newer, newest and back? Hi Everyone, This is an interesting thread, looking back to the "good ol' days" and then reflecting on today's Bagrut. Picking up on James Backer's message, regarding the amount of time we put out "teaching to the test" now, in comparison to "then"....let's look at the textbooks, coursebooks, workbooks and PRACTICE books piled up on our shelves. Yes, PRACTICE is the key word and I've got almost an entire shelf of these sent to me by the different publishers for my perusal and their hope I'll/we'll buy. I'm a strong supporter of a good coursebook, all the way up to and through 12th grade. I realize there are many teachers who do not agree with me and this became clear when I was helping one of my teachers choose an appropriate coursebook for his next year's 12th grade 4 point class and I could barely find a "real" one in any of the catalogs I had piled on the table. The only one that actually fits into the true category of coursebook, that I came up with, is Close Up (UPP) which is earmarked for 11th-12th grades. Thinking I may have missed something, I called ECB to ask what they had to offer and was told "Results for 4 Points". I pointed out that I know the book, but I don't consider it a true coursebook but a glorified practice book. I heard some hesitant words of "agreement" on the other end of the line but also received an explanation that this was what teachers want in the 12th grade....practice books, and that I was one of a very small minority of teachers who refuses to "teach Bagrut" and continue teaching English to the end. (I do of course, give my pupils some necessary exam practice.) I was promised that my request for a 4 point coursebook would be passed on to the powers-to-be although I doubt anything will come of it as money is the word here and if the demand is for practice books, that's what they'll all publish. My favorite coursebook, Summit, for 12th grade, 5 points, is still in the catalog but I wonder how many actually use it anymore and when it will disappear as did the 4 point book, "Final Four", which I was also told is no longer approved by the MOE as it doesn't include all the types of Bagrut exercises. So, James, you hit the nail on the head. The name of the game with the modular exam is to "teach Bagrut" from 10th to 12th grade. I'm not saying we should go back to the old Bagrut but can't we find a happy place in the middle? (And let's not forget the Meitzav which unfortunately, also overtakes real English-language teaching in elementary school.) Let's get back to the basics! Laurie ----------------------------------------------- ** The ETNI Rag ** http://www.etni.org/etnirag/ Much more than just a journal ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------