[etni] Fw: ambiguous Bagrut Questions

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  • Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:32:36 +0300

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Phil Simon - phil_simon@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: ambiguous Bagrut Questions

You are not the only one who is nostalgic for the days when students 
actually learned English and could prove it. Since those days the standard 
of English has dropped and dropped. Just look at the textbooks of those days 
and compare the standard to what there is today!

You are right about it not being about English any more but about everything 
else. It's not surprising that teachers and students are frustrated and that 
the students who can afford it need to have private lessons. HOTS is just 
one more example of what makes the MOE happy with no connection to what can 
raise standards.


Ruthi wrote:
> I am sorry to sound so geriatric but is anyone else nostalgic for the good 
> old Pre Module exams when we native speakers and experienced non native 
> speaker teachers all agreed as to what the correct answers to the exams 
> were? We used to sit around in a group while the kids were writing and 
> prepare the answer sheets.
>Today we run around crazily checking that all is okay with the E module 
>listening (which it isn't!) and barely have time to see the paper.And when 
>we do ,we see that there are discrepancies and arguments among teachers as 
>to which answers are acceptable!
>In the cloze and the rewrites there was no such problem. WE had a body of 
>material to teach.We knew what grammar topics would appear in the 
>rewrites,and what kind of questions to prepare our students for in the 5 
>point literature questions. Am I just too old or is the NBA really more 
>chaotic and less of a language test and more of an intelligence test?


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