[etni] FW: RE: comparative adjectives and geographical slurs
- From: "Gary Zone" <gary_zone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:42:40 +0000
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Ellen suggested I forward my reply to her to the list. See below.
With humble apologies who thought my language too strong, though
'intolerant' is in itself rather a strong condemnation, Ellen.
Are you all getting tireder and tireder of this debate as it drags on,
though it was fun at first?
As I concluded below in my reply to Ellen:
"I guess we should put the discussion to sleep now. But surely there was
nothing **funner** than a good debate such as this, eh?"
Gary
Calgary
>From: "Ellen Hoffenberg-Serfaty JD" <serf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "'Gary Zone'" <gary_zone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: comparative adjectives and geographical slurs
>Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:10:56 +0200
>
>Hi Gary,
>I'd suggest you send this note to the list...especially the apology
>part. There were indeed some who found your comments intolerant.
>
>Ellen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Zone [mailto:gary_zone@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:58 PM
>To: serf@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: comparative adjectives and geographical slurs
>
>
>Hi.
>I agree that we should agree to disagree. That is, after all, the
>democratic
>way.
>I agree that I should not have 'slurred' anyone's hometown. That was bad
>
>form and for that I apologize.
>I spoke to some women yesterday at the University of Calgary that are
>taking
>a six-week TESOL course and put the same question to them and they all
>agreed that 'tireder' sounded bad. They would not use it. They would
>think
>it 'slum'.
>I have never heard words like 'tireder' on the air waves, neither on
>Canadian, BBC or U.S. programs (except maybe in a situation comedy when
>they
>are trying to portray class, just as Ebonics are used in Afro-American
>comedies). I really don't know where you have heard such a word used,
>especially by fine orators. I don't think it plausible, but hey, I
>wasn't
>there when you were listening.
>People may use whatever language they wish to convey their ideas. The
>fact
>that I may evaluate them by their language is no different than others
>evaluating them by dress, body language, kemptness, etc. It is all part
>of
>the effect made on the receiver. Not only is the messanger evaluated,
>but
>also his/her message by all these extraneous behaviours and appearances.
>I guess we should put the discussion to sleep now. But surely there was
>nothing funner than a good debate such as this, eh?
>Gary
>Calgary
>
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