[etni] Re: ETNI ETAI ETC
- From: Lev Abramov <lev.abramov@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: renew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 00:42:18 +0300
Thanks, Renee!
Personally I don't mind some bashing as long as it keeps the discussions
going and the participants awake. And if some of them get angry - all the
better. They should not get angry at me: don't kill the messenger! - they
should be angry with the MOE that, as Dr Steiner once put it, "acts in
mysterious ways." And with the Irgun, that does not act. And with themselves
(OK, "whiners" is offensive - how do I define people who have done NOTHING
to alleviate their sufferings?!). If you guys get angry maybe you will start
acting? Doing something?
Those who don't like the way I express myself can use the Del button (which
G-d created exactly for that purpose!) although this will hardly be helpful
in long term.
And if you guys don't like the way things are done in the education system,
let's act together to bring forth the change you all deserve.
Best -
Lev
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Renee Wahl <renew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> It seems that we have gone from HOTS bashing to Lev bashing. Personally, I
> find Lev's satirical style just as stimulating and thought-provoking as
> Barry S's. It's all a matter of personal style. I see no reason why Lev
> (or anyone else) shouldn't be allowed to write what they believe and how
> they want to say it, as long as there is no personal attack on others in the
> list and 'kol hakavod' to David who seems to be allowing this. If someone
> is angry/frustrated/indignant with the Ministry or its representatives, why
> shouldn't they express this on a list for English teachers? This is our
> list and not the Ministry's! I think both Judy Steiner and Avi Tzur are
> perfectly capable of defending Ministry policy although Judy doesn't usually
> react and Avi's reactions are sometimes just as strong as Lev's. If you
> don't want to read it, then just skip over it.
>
> Regarding ETAI, of course we all know that everyone who works for this
> organization contributes lots of hard work, many hours, and the labor of
> love. We are all enriched and grateful for their wonderful work and its
> results. I don't know of any other group of teachers that has any kind of
> organization like ETAI or ETNI and it's their loss. However, after the
> session on HOTS that took place last year at the final session, I came back
> with a very bad feeling about the involvement of the Ministry with ETAI.
> It's very nice to have cooperation and communication between us, but we
> must remember that OUR interests do not always coincide, and when they
> don't, OUR interests come first in OUR organization. What justifiable
> reason could there possibly be for not scheduling a session or sessions on
> subjects that so many of our members find important â?? whether it be
> rebellion against our union or controversial Ministry programs? There are
> still those of us who remember the fight about 'whole language' which was
> thoroughly trounced, not in small measure because of a session at ETAI where
> teachers expressed their bitter opposition to it.
>
> Renee Wahl
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