Hi All, Let me add to this discussion. It's not only passing the written exam but the literary requirements and project level are different for 5 points. Can these borderline pupils complete these curriculum requirements, too? All too many times these are "neglected" as we sadly know. The kids and parents must know about these considerations as well. We always try to push kids up and encourage them to do their best. But not all good 4 pointers are capable of doing 5 points. Laurie