John didn't I send you a brake light for inside the window, or was that someone else. Now I'm not sure, or did you change it? Smokey Mt Frank In a message dated 10/5/2011 7:34:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, johncgg@xxxxxxxxx writes: Sorry to hear about this Chris!!! I borrowed a Saab 900 convertible that belonged to my boss, just long enough to meet Cindy and Nate when he was buying a car (we were short a car at the time, and Cindy had dropped me at work). I was waiting to turn left, and this little old lady just did not stop. I could see it coming too. Didn't make her hit me any softer. I was at a ddead stop. Couldn't do a thing. It's the insurance hassle that is worse than anything. No one was hurt. THIRD BRAKE LIGHT is a must on our style cars. The bumper is really low, and the lights are small and dim. _This is the one I have_ (http://www.jcwhitney.com/mini-led-brake-light/taillight/clearance/p2003590.jcwx) . Robert has more LED's in his light bar. It is worth the $20. I HAVE been hit by a semi in mine. It was a less than 5 mph hit. His foot was off the brake at a stop, and he didn't realize he was rolling. He hit me so square it didn't do a thing. I had the stock bumper at the time. Good luck with all the insurance hassle. JC On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Robert Adams <_elcam84@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:elcam84@xxxxxxxxx) > wrote: Arghh. Well doesn't look too bad. Looks like a bumper, bumper shocks maybe a bumper filler then a little paint and body work. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Chris Lindh <_chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: It was Grandma, taking her grandson to his baseball game. She was in a hurry and didn't see me stopped... (maybe I need a 3rd tail light). Couldn't see the large vehicle stopped in the road in front of her. Hmm She had her daughter come pick up the grandson, but when they tried to leave the officer announced through his loudspeaker that the occupant could not leave until he was finished with the process. Grandma received a citation for following too closely. (I have learned that sometimes it is best to slow down to get things done quickly.) I'm surprised she got a ticket for that. Most states they can't give tickets like that if it wasn't witnessed by an officer. A very gray area. Weather: clear, time 6PM, she was driving a Honda Accord. Her bumper cover received minor damage. Her hood had dents from a previous incident... Hmm While I was waiting to turn in my wife and boys turned in coming the opposite direction in the G35, then it happened. My oldest was upset thinking I got hurt. Reminds me of the dirt bike days. We were more worried if the bike was broken. Jeff can heal him self we have to fix the bike. :) :) Used to give him a hard time about that... The crazy part is Grandma wanted me to just let it slide... she thought my bumper could just be "pulled out". I'd like Grandma to work in a body shop for a few months... Uh no. It's more than just pulling a bumper out as it's bent and the bumper shocks have to be replaced after an accident as well. If she damaged the tailgate that's a huge cost to replace. ...and, at another time in my life it might have been a bummer, but I'm mellowing... Yeah know what you mean. Wasn't too upset when Alex crunched the PT cruiser. Well cause it wasn't her fault is why.... It's more the inconvenience of having to deal with rental cars talking to ins people and all that run around and then waiting for them to pay etc... it could have been worse (it wasn't an 18 wheeler!). The damage is minimal. I would have been aggravated if it was any of the other cars. The El Camino paint is rough, there are rust spots popping up all over, the drivers door is full of bondo (I have a spare) and the tailgate has bondo cracking off AND had a giant limb fall on it (I have a spare tailgate too). Ugh... Well you will have some funds to put into the elky now. Take the check and do most of it your self. I looked over the repair bill for the PT and was not impressed with the hourly fees. They were obviously padding the bill a bunch. $500 worth of parts retail and the repair was over 2K. They billed 8hrs for mixing paint. The whole job from beginning to end would have taken a shop less than 8hrs total. I know I'd never take a car there. Will suggest to allstate they audit the shops fee and time schedule for repairs cause it's way over book rate. Had I known they were going to charge the other ins company that much I would have done the repairs myself and made over 1K in profit... Robert Adams On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:08 AM, <_STILLFRANKSFAULT@xxxxxxxx (mailto:STILLFRANKSFAULT@xxxxxxx) > wrote: Bummer, never a good time for that. was (she) on a cell phone? Putting on makeup? Are you OK? Weather conditions? Wet? what was (she) driving? Smokey Mt Frank In a message dated 10/3/2011 9:01:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) writes: "Vehicles 1 and 2 were traveling south on (Main) Road approaching it`s intersection with (Neighborhood) Drive. Vehicle 2 stopped in preparation for turning left onto (Neighborhood) Drive, waiting on oncoming (northbound) traffic. Vehicle 1 was not able to stop in time, and struck the rear of vehicle 2 after swerving to the right in an attempt to avoid impact. Driver 2 stated that he was waiting on oncoming traffic to pass so he could make a left turn onto (Neighborhood) Drive when his vehicle was struck in the rear. Driver 1 stated that she did not see that vehicle 2 had stopped in time. She said that she attempted to stop in time, and tried to swerve to avoid striking vehicle 2, but she was not able to do so in time."