[duxuser] Re: leading commas
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- Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:17:19 +1000
I don't believe the original point of this thread was correct/incorrect
spelling (or braille) in brl or print, but more the relevance of showing
different print typefaces in braille where there is a space constraint.
I think it's a bit ego-centric to be so anal about transcription to the
absolute letter (errr ... font) especially on something like a sign
where it is basically irrelevant. A text book for example is a different
matter, although some brl readers don't want double caps/type face
indicators as they maintain it over-complicates the reading.
Print readers put up with all sorts of foibles and errors, misspelling
(try SMS messaging), mismatched type faces and colours, pictograms made
of print, point sizes etc. and get over it, get on with it and ... guess
what ... we still understand what it says!!
IMHO Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Foxworth, Ann
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2006 11:07 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: leading commas
I am in America and we are supposed to abide by the rules of American
braille formats. I don't know how many dozens of young and old blind
people I've heard say they can't spell because of being braille readers.
Sorry for going so far off topic. I'll shut up now.
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:15 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: leading commas
Would you interpret something [a sign] brailled according to the rules
of british Braille, which is different from the BANA rules, as 'bad
braille'? The rules - or various braille rubrics or systems devised -
are arbitrary creations; self-contradictory in parts. Although a
majority of countries in the braille-using [including
non-English-language] world observe the brailling in their practices of
capital signs for capital letters, a significant number do not, mainly
for space-saving reasons. [The amount of space taken up by a piece of
braille material is always greater than that taken up by its
representative in print.] many titles superimposed on the hard-copy
covers of APH and NLS-braille books do not have the capitals sign
included in them. They are, therefore, not a 'full translation' of the
print if that really matters. What really matters is that the
substantive details are understood and interpreted correctly by the
reader.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Winchester <mailto:BWinches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:32 AM
Subject: [duxuser] leading commas
I disagree with those who advocate ignoring the leading commas
and
other formatting concerns when creating even simple things like
signs.
If we produce bad braille the habit expectation of receiving bad
Braille becomes the standard. Would you likewise expect shoddy
workmanship for the printed portions of the same signs? I hope
not....
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