[duxhelp] Re: Changes in braille display after showing codes

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:24:33 -0400

Betsy,

Unfortunately, carrying user settings from version to version was one of the
major defects in Release Candidate 1.

Of course, you shouldn't have to set any particular font size to get a
decent braille display, but that's been a longstanding issue and one that
would be tricky to resolve.  So we've not endeavored to tackle it just now.
(But we surely didn't intend to make things worse.)

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:15 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Changes in braille display after showing codes

Caryn,
I never thought to check that the font size settings were carried over. Of
course when I set them back to 8 all is well. I was amazed that one of the
settings was 18 .
Betsy
At 09:57 AM 1/11/2007, you wrote:
>Hello Betsy.
>
>thanks for the clarification on the issue concerning the speaking of
>selected text.  I
>was misunderstanding your report, just as you thought.  But to the best of
>my knowledge, the speaking of selected text in braille has had this problem
>ever since DBT 10.5, when we first added the JAWS script files.  These JAWS
>script files do not override the bilt-in JAWS handling of selecting and
>unselecting text.  If I'm wrong about this, please contradict me with more
>information.
>
>Now on to the issue about extra spaces appearing on your braille display
>when you switch between coded view and formatted view in a braille
document.
>Peter and I have
>been checking this out, and we find that this problem is not a new one.
>However, you can eliminate this problem with a different choice of the font
>size for displaying your braille documents.  You probably weren't
>experiencing this problem in DBT 10.5 and 10.6 because you had already made
>that font adjustment.  The font adjustment that you made in DBT 10.5 was
>automatically carried over into the global settings for DBT 10.6.  But
alas,
>in RC1 for DBT 10.6 SR1, the settings that you had in DBT 10.6 were lost.
>This is similar to the reports
>of lost embosser settings, and it will be fixed in the next release
>candidate.
>
>Here's how to fix the problem that you are experiencing now.  This works
for
>me in the various JAWS versions that I have checked: 8.0, 7.10, and 6.10.
>In DBT's Global settings - Fonts,Change the font point size to 10 or less
>for the font that DBT is using to display braille.  If you set DBT to use
>the print font for showing braille, then change the Print font point size
to
>10 or less.  If you set DBT to use the Braille or SimBraille font for
>showing braille, then change the Braille/SimBraille font point size to 10
or
>less.  When I make this change in the Global settings, it is still there as
>I want it the next time I launch DBT.
>
>Sincerely,
>Caryn
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <brailleit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:45 PM
>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Changes in braille display after showing codes
>
>
>Caryn,
>My show cursor locator when shift is pressed is unchecked already.
>I just want to be sure I haven't confused you. The oddity is that
>when I am highlighting lines in the Braille document, it speaks the
>braille words instead of the print words like it used to do. When you
>used the word "extraneous " it made me think that you might be
>thinking that it is reading extra words.
>
>My "Active follows braille is unchecked.
>In case it matters, I have JFW set to Line mode as it usually is.
>Betsy
>
>At 09:27 AM 1/9/2007, you wrote:
> >Hello Betsy.
> >
> >I think that you can change a DBT setting to fix the problem of
extraneous
> >reading by JAWS when you select text with the Shift key.  It is one of
the
> >Cursor locator settings.  Go to Global settings - View preferences.
> >Uncheck
> >the checkbox labeled "Show cursor locator when shift is pushed."
> >
> >I don't have an immediate answer about the problem of extra spaces that
> >appear and disappear on your braille display.  But I'm wondering about
one
> >setting when you open the JAWS Configuration manager from DBT.  Under
> >Braille options, is "Active follows braille" checked?  I think that the
> >behavior you have described might occur if you check that option.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Caryn
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press" <brailleit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: "duxhelp-freelists.org" <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:56 PM
> >Subject: [duxhelp] Changes in braille display after showing codes
> >
> >
> >Listers,
> >When I open a .dxp document and then translate it to braille it looks
> >fine at first. If I display the codes using alt-f3 I see what looks
> >like two or three character spaces between some of the words on the
> >display. If I check with the cursor, there really is only one space
> >between the words and if I delete the space the words are then
> >touching.  If I then turn the codes off the large space remains. If I
> >continue to move down through the document, all seems right again.
> >This also occurs when I open braille documents and then display the
codes.
> >
> >Also, If I am in a braille document and the speech is reading the
> >print words and then I want to highlight part of the text by holding
> >down the shift and using the up or down arrow, the speech starts
> >reading the words in braille code. I don't remember this being like
> >this before.
> >
> >Also, I can't seem to get my Index Basic-D settings to stick.
> >everytime I bring a new document in, I have to reset the number of
> >characters and the top and binding margins in the Document Menu
> >Embosser settings. They do stick after I save them with the document.
> >
> >.
> >
> >
> >
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