[dungeoncrawl] Re: No discussion today

  • From: "Robert Deibler" <rdeibler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:58:58 -0500

No that would be a cool idea... But first I would like to start small. 
 
The 1st Idea woudl be Making a database and populating it with random monsters 
based on  certain criteria, Like city, ocean forst ect.. Then have the system 
pull a monster and refrence page. (in the ling run I would love for it to pull 
up a sheet for the monster.
 
I would like to take the idea and move it to magic items and creation
 
After thats tackled make up a NPC generator..
 
 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Fri 12/13/2002 7:51 AM 
        To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Cc: 
        Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: No discussion today
        
        

        But of course!  What do you have in
        mind?  The only project I'm interested
        in is some sort of campaign world
        idea "workbook" that could be run off
        of a free service like brinkster.com.
        
        > Hey Jim could I snatch some of your
        mighty and unlimited VB knowledge? I am
        going to start
        to work of 2 or three VB Ideas I have
        related to D&D. If I have some
        questions coudl I
        throw them out to you?
        >
        >       -----Original Message-----
        >       From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx
        [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
        >       Sent: Fri 12/13/2002 6:14 AM
        >       To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >       Cc:
        >       Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: No
        discussion today
        >      
        >      
        >
        >       I realized something else about
        Baromir
        >       the second time I saw the film
        in the
        >       theatre - he put himself in a
        supremely
        >       high-risk situation after
        betraying
        >       Frodo as a way of atoning for
        what he
        >       did.
        >      
        >       That was why he was blowing the
        horn -
        >       he wanted to attract all the
        Uruk-Hai
        >       to him so others could
        regroup.  Cool
        >       character -
        >      
        >      
        >       >
        >       >     I have to say something
        else
        >       about the extended version,
        since Keith
        >       > mentioned it.  The extra time
        with
        >       Gimli was well worth it.  His
        reaction
        >       to
        >       > Galadriel was somewhat
        glossed over
        >       originally, and by focusing on
        it more
        >       in
        >       > the extended version, he
        comes off as
        >       a much more developed character.
        >       >     I don't know about
        Boromir.  I'm
        >       not saying you couldn't do it,
        but he's
        >       not
        >       > quite a Jim character in my
        mind.
        >       Honestly (and this could be an
        >       interesting
        >       > discussion thread), I could
        see you
        >       playing Strider/Aragorn before
        Boromir.
        >       > Someone born to power who
        doesn't
        >       want it, someone stuck in a
        love affair
        >       that
        >       > is forbidden, someone forced
        into
        >       playing the leader and being
        the gruff
        >       strong
        >       > guy all the time.  It's part
        of
        >       Ambrosia, part of Kage...  The
        only
        >       problem is
        >       > that Strider doesn't have
        much of a
        >       sense of humor.  But then,
        neither does
        >       > Kage.
        >       >     I do agree that you could
        play
        >       Merry or Pippin.  They just
        scream  "Jim
        >       > character!!!!"  :)
        >       >
        >       > Jim and Karen wrote:
        >       >
        >       > > Now I really want to watch
        the rest
        >       of the extended version!  If
        only time
        >       > > would allow -
        >       > >
        >       > > By the way, who agrees that
        if we
        >       were to play the Fellowship in
        D&D, I'd
        >       be
        >       > > playing Pippin and
        Boromir? :)
        >       > >
        >       > > ----- Original Message -----
        >       > > From: "Grogan, Keith"
        >       <Keith_Grogan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        >       > > To:
        <dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        >       > > Sent: Thursday, December
        12, 2002
        >       8:23 PM
        >       > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re:
        No
        >       discussion today
        >       > >
        >       > > >
        >       > > > We ended up closing early
        on
        >       Wednesday, not sure why it was
        mostly
        >       just
        >       > > > raining. I only worked
        for about
        >       4 hours. I left work about
        5:30. I
        >       headed
        >       > > > over to the salon to see
        Tim and
        >       ended up getting my birthday
        gift from
        >       > > > Julie. My one hour
        massage that
        >       she promised me in b-day card
        at my
        >       party.
        >       > > > It felt sooooooooooooooo
        >       goooooooooooooood. I felt like
        jello
        >       when she was
        >       > > > done. Got my neck, arms,
        hands,
        >       legs, feet, chest and back deep
        tissue
        >       > > > massaged. I highly
        recommend her
        >       to anyone.
        >       > > >
        >       > > > I also loved the extended
        version
        >       of Lord of the Rings. The
        entire section
        >       > > > they put back in when the
        >       fellowship was w/ the elves
        after
        >       getting out of
        >       > > > the mines made so much
        more
        >       sense. Well to me at least. I
        got lost
        >       at that
        >       > > > part in the original
        movie.
        >       Probably because of never
        reading the
        >       book. I
        >       > > > figured more happened
        there than
        >       what was shown. It wasn't unitl
        I saw
        >       the
        >       > > > extended version that I
        noticed
        >       that the whole fellowship had
        the
        >       matching
        >       > > > cloaks and noticed
        Lelagas' new
        >       bow since I now knew they had
        them. I
        >       also
        >       > > > loved Bilbo's narration of
        >       hobbits and the shire after the
        >       narrator's back
        >       > > > story. Like John I liked
        the
        >       insight more into Boromir's
        character.
        >       In the
        >       > > > original I felt he was
        there to
        >       be killed because someone had
        to die in
        >       > > the
        >       > > > film. I ended up liking
        him as
        >       much as the others in this
        version. It
        >       was
        >       > > > like watching a totally
        new
        >       movie, almost. It was very well
        done.
        >       > > >
        >       > > > > ----------
        >       > > > > From: Johnathan Detrick
        >       > > > > Reply To:
        >       dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >       > > > > Sent: Thursday,
        December 12,
        >       2002 7:31 AM
        >       > > > > To:
        dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >       > > > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl]
        Re: No
        >       discussion today
        >       > > > >
        >       > > > >
        >       > > > >     I decided to take
        yesterday
        >       off.  I don't mind driving in
        snow (and
        >       > > I
        >       > > > > was
        >       > > > > here last Thursday when
        we got
        >       our first snowstorm), but I
        hate ice.
        >       > > Add
        >       > > > > to
        >       > > > > that the fact that Brad
        and I
        >       have been tremendously busy and
        just
        >       > > needed
        >       > > > > a
        >       > > > > day off, and the
        decision to
        >       stay home was a little more
        simple (and
        >       I'm
        >       > > > > not
        >       > > > > too busy this week).
        >       > > > >     So we spent the day
        >       studying for his Real Estate
        Exam
        >       (which he
        >       > > takes
        >       > > > > the
        >       > > > > 23rd).  It was great to
        have a
        >       whole day to study, and we got
        a lot
        >       > > > > accomplished.  I still
        maintain
        >       that, by the time we finish, I
        could
        >       > > take
        >       > > > > the
        >       > > > > damn test and get my
        real
        >       estate license if I wanted
        to!  :)
        >       > > > >     We also did
        something else
        >       that I didn't think I would
        have time to
        >       > > > > do; we
        >       > > > > finally watched the
        Lord of the
        >       Rings!  This is the first time
        I have
        >       > > seen
        >       > > > > the
        >       > > > > movie in almost a year,
        and I
        >       have to say; I couldn't stand
        the damn
        >       > > > > thing!
        >       > > > > No, I'm kidding....I
        have
        >       visions of Jim and Matt coming
        to my
        >       house to
        >       > > > > burn
        >       > > > > me as a heretic!  No, I
        find
        >       the film endlessly fascinating,
        and
        >       > > increased
        >       > > > > running time was
        incredible.  I
        >       usually say most films need an
        editor
        >       > > and
        >       > > > > should be shorter, but
        the
        >       extra time was great.  Middle
        Earth
        >       feels
        >       > > like
        >       > > > > a
        >       > > > > place you could
        actually go,
        >       and the scenery is gorgeous.
        >       > > > >     What really struck
        me about
        >       the movie though, and what made
        it
        >       > > better
        >       > > > > than
        >       > > > > it was the first time
        (and
        >       better than the book when I
        read it),
        >       was the
        >       > > > > characterization of
        Boromir.
        >       When I read the book, he came
        off as a
        >       > > total
        >       > > > > spaz and a jerk, and to
        me, it
        >       was always a foregone
        conclusion that he
        >       > > > > would
        >       > > > > cause trouble for the
        hobbits
        >       eventually.  However, the movie
        makes
        >       him
        >       > > a
        >       > > > > real
        >       > > > > person.  He's not a bad
        guy; he
        >       simply isn't as strong as some
        of the
        >       > > > > other
        >       > > > > characters, especially
        >       Aragorn.  In fact, if Aragorn
        were not
        >       in the
        >       > > > > group, I
        >       > > > > feel Boromir quite
        easily could
        >       have been the hero of the
        tale.  I felt
        >       > > > > his
        >       > > > > death even more
        strongly this
        >       time, not just because I found
        him to
        >       be a
        >       > > > > very
        >       > > > > real character, but
        because I
        >       feel the further story of his
        adventures
        >       > > (as
        >       > > > > he
        >       > > > > tried to come back from
        what he
        >       had done) would have been
        fascinating.
        >       > > > >     But there is an even
        >       greater reason why the
        portrayal of
        >       Boromir
        >       > > made
        >       > > > > the
        >       > > > > movie truly great for
        me.  When
        >       I first read the book (as a
        teenager), I
        >       > > > > remember one thought
        that drove
        >       through my mind; Frodo is an
        idiot!  He
        >       > > > > goes
        >       > > > > off on his own, and how
        stupid
        >       is that?!  He's a freaking
        hobbit, with
        >       > > > > nary a
        >       > > > > level in sight (does he
        ever
        >       contribute to any fight in the
        movie?
        >       > > Heck,
        >       > > > > Merry and Pippin are
        more
        >       useful than Frodo in a
        brawl!).  So,
        >       what does
        >       > > > > wussy
        >       > > > > ass Frodo do?  He
        abandons all
        >       of his powerful companions, and
        goes
        >       > > > > running
        >       > > > > off alone.  That always
        drove
        >       me crazy, and I saw it only as
        a plot
        >       > > > > device.
        >       > > > > When I saw the movie
        last year,
        >       my feelings were confirmed. 
        Frodo
        >       > > > > shouldn't
        >       > > > > have gone off alone,
        because he
        >       was King of the Wussies, and it
        was
        >       > > simply
        >       > > > > to
        >       > > > > move the plot along.
        >       > > > >     But yesterday it
        finally
        >       gelled for me.  Boromir was a
        good
        >       man.  A
        >       > > > > trifle
        >       > > > > rash, perhaps, and
        sometimes a
        >       wee bit obnoxious, but he was
        good in
        >       his
        >       > > > > heart.  He wanted to
        help his
        >       people, and he did not want to
        hurt his
        >       > > > > companions.  Yet the
        power of
        >       the Ring seduced him.  Finally,
        I saw
        >       it!
        >       > > > > He
        >       > > > > was seduced first,
        because he
        >       was the weakest.  But the
        others would
        >       > > have
        >       > > > > been
        >       > > > > seduced eventually.  So
        Frodo
        >       had to go alone.  And it all
        made sense.
        >       > > > >     Ok, LoTR talk is
        over for
        >       now.  Everyone else have a good
        day?
        >       > > > >
        >       > > > > Damon Kline wrote:
        >       > > > >
        >       > > > > > Well, I was going to
        see if
        >       anyone else had made it to work
        and get
        >       a
        >       > > > > D&D
        >       > > > > > discussion started,
        but now
        >       that they gave us a two hour
        delay and
        >       we
        >       > > > > came
        >       > > > > > into work, they have
        decided
        >       to close the office.  So, my
        attempt at
        >       a
        >       > > > > > discussion will have
        to
        >       wait.  See you guys later and
        if you
        >       are at
        >       > > work
        >       > > > > > today, be careful
        driving
        >       home!
        >       > > > > >
        >       > > > > >
        >       > > > > > Damon Kline
        >       > > > > > Legal Systems
        Technician
        >       > > > > > Supreme Court of
        Pennsylvania
        >       > > > > > 5035 Ritter Road
        >       > > > > > Suite 700
        >       > > > > > (717) 795-2028
        >       > > > > >
        damon.kline@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        >       > > > > >
        >       > > > >
        >       > > > >
        >       > > > >
        >       > > >
        >       > > >
        >       >
        >       >
        >       >
        >      
        >      
        >      
        >      
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