Hardy's right. I once asked an Amish trainer I knew how he got his horses to stand so well. "Get in and drive 5 miles." Eventually they will learn that they don't know how long they are going to be working, so they will welcome any chance to stand still." I also remember hearing Udo Hochgeschurz explain that his son rode his pair daily, and then on weekends they would hitch and for conditioning drive for 4 hours or so in the National Forest, taking along the newspaper and coffee. -- noel jones, aago athens, tennessee, usa ------------------------------- frog music press rodgers organ users group www.frogmusic.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````