[directmusic] Re: MP3 encoded wav tracks, a pain in the neck..
- From: "Scott Morgan" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:59:26 -0600
btw- I once tried to do a very wav track oriented project (beginning of
2001). I came to the conclusion that wave tracks are too buggy and
problematic to use in any way that makes the music dependant on the wavs
working.
Here are some of the things that kill it for me:
1. The lack of an easy way to implement crossfading.
2. The fact that if there is any tiny glitch, midi and wav get out of sync
until a new wave is triggered. This can mean the music sounds horrible for
a long time.
3. There were bugs in DX8 that made waves simply not play in certain
situations. It wasn't until I started working at MS that I finally figured
these bugs out...
4. The wavs take up too much disk space. I'm using ADPCM since MP3 doesn't
have as much support in DX8.
So in the game I am working on now, the only time I use a wav is for a very
rhythmically free flute melody that doesn't really need to be there at all
times. If it gets out of sync I don't care because the nature of the music
is more timbre based and works at any point you place it at.
Ice_Planet (my first DMDemo) replaced the originl wave project I tried to
create. IcePlanet has one wave track with a single guitar chord in it.
-Scott Morgan
http://Morganstudios.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Booth" <jason@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: [directmusic] Re: MP3 encoded wav tracks, a pain in the neck..
>
> You may be right, but I don't want to give up on DMP just yet.
> Most likely, if we roll our own solution, it will sit on top of Direct
> Music, with primary segments triggering our code. This is because I
> eventually want to explore using DLS2 instruments on top of my wav
> sections, by embeding the wav segments chord changes into the segment
> for reference. I also want to be able to use the player music concept we
> used in AC2, which is pretty fundimentally a DMP type of system.
> Anyway, I'm only going to bang my head against the wall so long
> before we start rolling our own. The difficulty, of course, will be
> convincing our management to spend the code time after we have our old
> music system (the one used for AC2) finished and (mostly) working
> correctly.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Saul Bottcher [mailto:saul.bottcher@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:21 PM
> To: directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [directmusic] Re: MP3 encoded wav tracks, a pain in the neck..
>
>
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> From an outside perspective: you seem to be pretty frustrated early
> in the project, and have enumerated a long list of difficulties that
> don't seem surmountable (i.e. behaviours of DMP you have no way of
> changing). Plus, DMusic doesn't seem to be saving you much work (since
> you'll need to re-implement groove levels in scripts), and saving work
> is what a good tool does for you.
> If you are comfortable with the concept, it sounds like creating
> your own music system might be the way to go this time.
> (Which is not to disparage DirectMusic at all - no single tool is
> the right solution for every job, even within its intended scope).
>
> Saul.
>
>
>
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