they seem to be selected. In the track pain's input and output fields I'm able to see that it says Delta midi and have checked the device manager page aswell. It's funny because in the banks field on the track pain if I place it on bank 0 it says GM motif but nothing on the rest. I don't know if that means anything to anyone. Does echo have to be off or anything like that? ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:03 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: no motif bank or patch listed "help" How about in the midi devices page. Did you select inputs and outputs there? Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Quinto Sanchez To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: no motif bank or patch listed "help" If you mean in the assign instruments dialogue where it has the channels 1-16 yes they say Delta 1010 midi motif es all. ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: no motif bank or patch listed "help" Have you made all the outputs to the motif in the instrument assign? Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Quinto Sanchez To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: [ddots-l] no motif bank or patch listed "help" Hello to all: I have installed the instrument definition for motif into sonar to the best of my understanding following the tutorial instructions. In the assign instrmen dialogue it displays "motif es all" so I assume they have installed successfully and if I were to click into the define button in the assign instrument dialogue and move through the triview and open up motif es all patches and banks list I can see the names of them listed. My problem is that In the track pain it says channel 1 motif es all port but in the bank and patch fields it says not set and if I arrow through it's only numbers and no patches change. I have turned off the local mode on the motif and placed it on song mode. What am I doing wrong? Thanks list.