[ddots-l] Re: cross fading
- From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:34:29 -0500
if you read down in the message you'll find the origional message containing
the demo instructions that Dan gave, and which I followed, and if you follow
them as well, you'll have your demo.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Jackson
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Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:40 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: cross fading
I would love a demo. Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Rugman
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Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:30 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: cross fading
Absolutely. It sounds rediculous, but Sonar can handle a crossfade of
less than a millisecond, although I normally only make longer cross fades.
I tend to use it when the material is too different to be simply spliced.
I didn't talk about this the other day but you can also crossfade between
two tracks. You just have to select both tracks and then carry on as if it was
just one. This is really useful for crossing between takes on different
tracks, which are hopefully already aligned.
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Halton
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 1:51 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: cross fading
Hey Dan,
That's great-thanx. Are you saying that one of the uses of this would be
to smooth out "snaps&Pops" by, say, overlapping a splice by a few ticks or so
and then cross-fading?
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Rugman
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] cross fading
Hi Neville and others,
I'm really sorry. I completely forgot to give you a description of
cross fading as I promised all those months ago. I was caught up in finishing
up a couple of large scale pieces and I had several concerts to prepare for
which made me go slightly insane. I have vague memories of a week in France
without a computer as well.
I don't have time right now for a detail working through, that will
have to wait until tomorrow morning but just for a laugh try this.
1. Load up a long wave file onto a clean track and set the from and
through times to points near the middle of the file.
2. Cut the material between the from and through times, making sure
that you enable the delete whole option in the cut dialogue, this will ensure
that everything after the cut will be moved over to fill in the gap, in other
words to the from time. This is essentially a splice.
3. The next step is to select all the material which came after the
cut. The from and through times will not have moved so you only have to hit
control + f10 to move the through time to the end of the file. This will
automatically select the rest of the track.
4. Move the now time to a few measures before the from time so that you
can hear what happens at the point where you made the cut. At the moment you
should just hear a sudden jump. Now use the large nudge keys to move the
material after the cut so that it overlaps that which came before. Make the
overlap really big, say a whole measure, so that you can hear what happens
next. You're now ready to make the cross fade.
5. You need to select a portion of the track which includes the
overlap. It doesn't need to be exact so you could just hit play and then f9
just before the overlap and f10 just after it. You could even just select the
whole track because there are no overlaps anywhere else. Now just go to the
crossfade dialogue in the audio submenu of the process menu. The short cuts
are alt+P then A then C. The linear crossfade option should be highlighted
which is what we want so just hit enter.
6. Observe the amusing result. If its not quite to your liking then
you have two options. The first is to change the position of the material
after the cut, or change the actual cut itself.
7. To change the position of the material you need to undo back to the
first nudge. To do this use the undo history. The dialogues a bit misleading
but what you need to do is move down to the last thing you want to undo and
then go down one more. This restores the file to the point immediately before
the operation you wanted to undo. After this just nudge the audio after the
cut to a different and try the cross fade again.
To change the cut itself just go even further back through the history.
It will be one below the cut, probably "insert audio". This will put the cut
material back and put the from and through times to the points they were at
immediately before you made the cut.
I know this sounds a little convaluted but if you Just try it out a few
times you'll soon get the hang of it. There are other more complicated things
that you can do, like cross fading between different takes on different tracks
but its not as bad as it sounds.
If you really want to go into depth on this then I think the best thing
I can do is either prepare a full length document outlining things clearly in a
formal way, or to do an audio demo that I can send to you or upload somewhere.
Hope all this makes sencse and that you get it to work,
Dan
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