Hi Cameron, Did you take a look at the Groove Synth that came free with Sonar? There are 909 and 808 drums plus, other classic drum machine samples. They aren't as punchy as hardware so you need to work on them a little. If you just wanted say the bass drum sound to sound like the 909 hardware: 1: have one groove synth dedicated to the bass drum. 2: add sonitus EQ and choose preset bass boost. 3: place your cursor one to the right of effects bin so you are on EQ and then hit application (this will put the next effect in front of the EQ), 4: Go to sonitus Compressor and choose preset Drum destroyer, 5: place the cursor one to the right of effects bin which will put you on Compressor, then press application, (this will put the next effect in front of the Compressor), 6: go to sonitus Gate and choose Default Gate. The bass drum should now give serious punch and sound something like the original 909 sound. Hope this helps. Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: Cameron To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:49 AM Subject: [ddots-l] best freeware drums for electronic/dance/club music? Hi all. I have a lot of great acoustic drums including superior 2.0. What I seem to lack in my virtual instrument collection are really good punchy high quality drum sounds for electronic/trance/club/dance music. I've gone through the drum offerings in dimension pro, rapture le, etc and they all seem to lack good electronic drum sounds. Can anybody suggest anything out there? I found some freeware tr909 and tr808 emulators, but because of the GUI, I can't seem to load any presets. Maybe sound fonts with sfz would be the way to go since there is hsc support for that? Thanks, Cameron.