[ddots-l] Re: Word Clock fix failed
- From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:33:17 -0600
How are they connected?
K.
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Luis Elorza
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:10 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Word Clock fix failed
i use a 2408 mk3 with a tascam digital mixer and 3 adats with no problems,
but i've never used 2 2408's.
i would expect the 2408's to work in sync as long as they are on the same
424 card, but really don't know.
good luck.
Luis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Word Clock fix failed
> There are two computers involved.
> COMPUTER 1:
> The first computer has one MOTU 2408 Mark 3 and one MOTU 2408. These
> one space hardware units are connected through proprietary audio
> cables to a PCI424 card capable of sustaining any four members of the
> MOTU 2408 family of hardware boxes. COMPUTER 2
> Computer 2 is physically identical to computer 1 in every way except
> that instead of a PCI424 card and MOTU boxes, it has one Frontier Design
> Wave Center PCI card which is a GSIF compatible soundcard designed to,
> among
> other things, interact with the Gigastudio family of products. This
> computer is dedicated to Gigastudio 3.x.
> As I explained in the first post, I originally used lightpipe going
> in both directions between the Wave Center PCI (GSIF compatible soundcard)
> and ADAT Optical Bank B on my original 2408. Unfortunately, ADAT sync is
> not reliable enough to prevent the modest clicks and pops that nearly
> ruined
> my last album.
> A former instructor of mine who has an identical rig, with the
> acception that he has two Giga computers instead of one, suggested that I
> use a third synchronizer to resolve the issue. He has the Apogee Big Ben.
> I have a MOTU Digital Timepiece which I haven't used in quite a while but
> which should fill the bill. Unfortunately, I can't seem to make it take
> its
> proper place in the chain no matter what I do. The only way I can get any
> sync at all is to use ADAT in both directions but it's not good enough.
> If you're on Skype, I'm kevjazz and I'm here. Give me a shout.
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Luis Elorza
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:42 PM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Word Clock fix failed
>
>
> complicated, can you explain how many computers you are using and what
> devices are hooked up on each?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'David Earl'" <dgearl@xxxxxxxxx>; <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> "'Jerry Gerber'" <jerrygerber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:21 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Word Clock fix failed
>
>
> Dear All,
> I'm sure I've written to all of you at different times and with
> varying levels of specificity concerning my desire to get more solid
> clock sync between my Giga and DAW computers. Originally, I had ADAT
> Sync going in both directions between my Giga computer and my MOTU
> 2408 equipped DAW. While this does work, I do get a very slight and
> random amount of digital static resulting from imperfect clock sync.
> This is not acceptable when you make records for a living. The
> solutions I've attempted without success are detailed below. I bought
> some Word Clock cables and an SPDIF cable and connected them in
> several configurations but none of the configurations I've
> dried gives me any sync at all between my GSIF Giga compatible soundcard
> and
> my
> DAW. Here are the configurations I've tried:
> CONFIGURATION 1:
> A. Connect Word Clock out of Digital Timepiece and into 2408 Mark 3. B.
> Connect Word Clock out of 2408 Mark 3 and into 2408. C. Connect Word
> Clock
> out of 2408 and back into Digital Timepiece. D. Connect SPDIF cable out
> of
> Digital Timepiece SPDIF out and into Giga computer's SPDIF IN. E. Audio
> goes out of Giga computer's lightpipe out and into corresponding lightpipe
> in port on 2408 bank B Optical. No joy
>
> Configuration 2
> Same as configuration one except that there is no WC going out of the
> second
> 2408 and back to the DTP Word Clock IN.
>
> Configuration 3.
> Word Clock goes out of 2408 Mark 3 and into 2408 and out of 2408 back
> to 2408 Mark 3. SPDIF connected from Bank C SPDIF OUT to Coax optical
> IN on giga computer. Still no joy. The other interesting thing is that
> the Digital Timepiece doesn't show up as a clock source in the MOTU
> PCI424 Audio Console. I used to have a PCI 324 card which had a Mac
> BNC cable receptacle
> on it. The PCI424 has a 9 pin ADAT sync but no circular BNC anymore. I
> used to use such a cable along with RS422, not 432 but 422 cables that
> connected my digital timepiece to my Tascam DA88s in the days when I
> controlled them with Sonar using MMC. This also required MIDI in both
> directions. I'm not dealing with any of that right now. Could this have
> anything to do with why the DTP doesn't show up in the Audio Console's
> clock
> source options? I've also tried changing the clock source from Internal
> on
> the DTP to any number of things like Word Clock or Word Clock/Internal.
> No
> joy. I've also tried changing the clock source in the PCI424 Console to
> Word Clock IN and Video and other stuff. No joy. It's important to note
> that the DTP does not have any software console for Windows. The unit is
> some ten years old, has no drivers that I can remember and has
> documentation
> that predates the widespread use of GSIF cards. The machine was designed
> with the video post production house in mind. It should work but..
>
> In any event, why can't I get clock sync with coax using the SPDIF
> cables
> I
> have with or without the DTP?
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Kevin
>
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