[ddots-l] Re: Using new Technology On Stage Such As The Zoom H4n
- From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 17:18:14 +0100
Steve wrote: Hi Phil,
Just popped in from out of the Sun.
Hey, this Sun thing is quite nice, shame we don't have more of it in
England.
Phil replied: agreed. Just been enjoying some of that down here in Dorset.
Off to load up the car for a gig in a minute or two.
Steve wrote: You mentioned, the Focusright Pro 24.
Would that sound card get rid of my Latency problem I'm getting on vocal
tracks.
Phil replied: it certainly would because you can use hardware monitoring
with this device. That would result in 0 latency because your not using the
PC to listen to your microphones at all. Also, it's control panel is fully
accessible, thanks to an excellent HSC set that Tim Burgess has put
together. Finally, if you have any MIDI devices attached to this sound card
then, you can use it's hardware monitoring without the PC turned on at all.
This allows you to be able to jam using your MIDI gear, with the PC turned
off.
Steve wrote: It's really off putting when you hear your voice coming back at
you through the headphones slightly delayed.
I'm using the Fast Track Pro and have tried several different drivers at 0
latency, still hearing a short delay on my voice.
Phil replied: the Focusright drivers are really well written too so, you
will be able to achieve low latency when recording using softsynthes.
Steve wrote: Regarding old technology, my 1.3 gigabyte Fostex 8 track
recorder that came out of a cave man's studio never had latency problems?
Phil replied: that's because the whole thing is hardware driven.
Steve wrote: Didn't know what latency was until I got my computer although,
to be fare, I love my computer when it works.
Phil replied: yup, and like the rest of us, you couldn't live without your
PC.
Regards, Phil Muir
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Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 3:28 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Using new Technology On Stage Such As The Zoom H4n
Hi Phil,
Just popped in from out of the Sun.
Hey, this Sun thing is quite nice, shame we don't have more of it in
England.
You mentioned, the Focusright Pro 24.
Would that sound card get rid of my Latency problem I'm getting on vocal
tracks.
It's really off putting when you hear your voice coming back at you through
the headphones slightly delayed.
I'm using the Fast Track Pro and have tried several different drivers at 0
latency, still hearing a short delay on my voice.
Regarding old technology, my 1.3 gigabyte Fostex 8 track recorder that came
out of a cave man's studio never had latency problems?
Didn't know what latency was until I got my computer although, to be fare, I
love my computer when it works.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:30 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Using new Technology On Stage Such As The Zoom H4n
> Steve wrote: Hi Nick,
>
> A great example of the old technology sometimes being better and faster.
>
> I performed last Weekend at an event where the other artistes were using
> MP3
> tracks on memory sticks.
>
> When I arrived their computer and sound system was already set up.
> I started to set up my sound system, piano and my box of tricks that
> includes, mini disc player, mixer, effects units and hidden in the mixer
> box
> a Walkman cassette player.
>
> I'd just finished setting up when one of the guys came over and said,
> "Have
> you got any background music as we are having problems with noise coming
> off
> our sound card.
>
> Phil replied: that's why when using a laptop on stage, I wouldn't
> personally
> use it's sound card. If you're going to use a laptop on stage then, you
> should use a professional sound card such as the Focusright Pro 24.
>
> Steve wrote: I simply hit play on the walkman and sound filled the room.
>
> Phil replied: I use an MP3 player for background music as the sound isn't
> so
> critical.
>
> Steve wrote: Finally once the Laptop was working the first performer came
> on
> to the stage, they just stood there whilst the guy working the laptop
> tried
> to find the first track to be played.
> This awkward pause whilst tracks were found became part of the
> proceedings,
> at least until my spot.
>
> Phil replied: using a laptop isn't a bad idea as you can set-up playlists
> in
> applications such as Winamp. On the other hand, I have on very rare
> occasions, had slight issues locating the next track, smile though not all
> the way through a performance.
>
> Steve wrote: I hit play on my mini disc and my show was floorless.
>
> Phil replied: I don't doubt it.
>
> Steve wrote: I don't know enough about mini disc specifications of sample
> quality against
> MP3 quality but, I'm sure I had a richer sound.
>
> Phil replied: if the good people who were using MP3 were using higher
> bitrates such as 192KBPS then, it's possible to achieve pretty good sound.
> On the other hand, it's likely that the converters sounded better in your
> Minidisk as I think your using a professional machine.
>
> Steve wrote: I don't think I'll be using a laptop live for many years.
>
> Phil replied: I am not using one now here either. Using the ZoomH4N with
> 16bit 44.1 wave files mixed straight off the PC which, sound better than
> Minidisk or, MP3. I may even put those up to 24bit at some point but as
> yet, haven't had the time. BTW, am getting a mic stand adapter for the
> ZoomH4n later on this week. Will let you know how that works out for me.
>
>
> Regards, Phil Muir
> Accessibility Training
> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
> UK +44-1747-821-794
> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
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