[ddots-l] SV: Re: micking drums

  • From: "Dennis Madsen" <dennis.madsen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:55:30 +0200

 
 
Hi Omar!
 
You need a consule with more inputs. The problem will be to mixe the drums
after recording. By using a sub mixer you will record a destructive track.
As Steven mentioned you can not work with the effects on the drums later.
You need to get a sub mixer and wire it up with hardware effects and now we
are talking a lot of stuff to buy or rent and still not getting the best
result.
 
 
Steves idear with midi pads is possibly the best solution to your problem.
Drums allways takes a lot of time getting to sound right, with damping and
tune it can be a paine. Many studios has there own drums stationary off
these reasons.
 
   
 
take care
 
 
dennis
 
 


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Sendt: 30. juli 2010 14:29
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so what would i need in order to do this?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Darren H <mailto:darren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:24 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: micking drums

Not if you've just got a stereo mix going into your computer.
 
Cheers
Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Omar  <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> Binno 
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:18 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: micking drums

Yes they'll be recording an entire cd. The room will be pretty well padded
up, so it'll be quite dry. Is there any way to record each drum part onto a
separate track?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steve Wicketts <mailto:steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 8:00 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: micking drums

Hi Omar,
 
Are these guys going to be recording many songs at your studio?
 
I've not personally tried to mic up drums, however, I saw your emails and I
was thinking even it you have a separate sub mixer, you'll still be
recording to two tracks.
The mixer will allow you to EQ each channel and Pan, the problem will be
doing the final mix in Sonar, you won't be able to isolate separate drums,
to gate, compress or add reverb effects, 
What's the ambiance of the room like where the drums will be recorded?
This is not going to be easy mate.
 
It maybe cheaper to hire some thing like the Roland TD range of electronic
drum Kits.
At least you won't need 5 drum microphones plus a mixer.
Record the midi as well as the audio then, get the guys to leave the drum
kit at yours, after the guys have gone, you can play the performance back
through midi and record each drum on to separate audio tracks.
Steve W 
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Omar  <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> Binno 
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: micking drums

yes I do have an adat port. Do you have any recommendations for having 6
preamp inputs in one unit? Outside of having a mixer, I'm not familiar with
something like this. What kind of unit am I looking for?
 
Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Phil Muir <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:39 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: micking drums

u could do that however , this is dependend on you having an ADAT port.
 



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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Binno
Sent: 30 July 2010 01:04
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: micking drums


Phil,
 
Do you mean I can get some external preamps without a mixer? I would need
around 6 of them.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Phil Muir <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:24 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: micking drums

If you have an ADAT port on the fireface then, you could use some pree-amps
with an ADAT port instead.
 




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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Binno
Sent: 29 July 2010 10:37
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] micking drums


Hello,
 
I'm going to be recording live instruments soon, and it's the first time
I've done this. I'm using the RME fireface 800, and it has only 2 mic
inputs. I'll be recording live drums, and I'll need about 6 mics for those.
If the fireface has only 2 mic inputs, what's the best solution to record
all the drums at the same time? Would i need to use a mixer for the extra
mic inputs, or is there another alternative?
 
Thanks.
 
Omar Binno
 
Website: www.bigoproductions.net
AIM: LOD1116



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