As much as I agree, I still wonder how well Sonar would run on a Mac Pro. AS time goes on, I'm becoming more and more of an Apple guy with no interest what soever in Windows 8.
I have also tried on more than one ocasion to figure out what was slowing down my Del but I keep hearing that it could be anything in the chain. Even with all the bloatware removed, it still sucks.
I'll look into some of the things DJ mentioned such as the Ivy bridge.Whatever I buy, it will be out of pocket without any conditional financial aid.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:03 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Redesigned Mac Pro Coming In Autumn Chris is right, with the money you spend on such a mac, I could probably build you such a computer and still have enough left over for a good interface and more! :) It'll be interesting to see how all that stacks up in real worl use with this new mac pro, specially for daw work, without the common expansions. USB3 and thunderbult are still not fully adapted in the interface/audio world, not as much as UBS and Firewire and PCI express at least. But to second what was said, a dedicated audio daw would do you miracles, it'll be a hundred or more tracks before you'll run into issues on a proper build with a good interface, specially when a daw is powered with an ivy bridge 3rd generation i7 or a 4th generation haswell, they're smoking! Hek, the sandy bridge daw I just sold could do over 100 tracks with my saffire when tested, using via firewire chip and on stock speeds. HTH, D!J!X! -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:03 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Redesigned Mac Pro Coming In Autumn doubt it. there is lots of latency in such a setup. Bob, if you want top notch Sonar performance under Windows, buy a machine made for audio and music work. This means not going through ADP, but paying for it through a specialized DAW builder. Check out: http://www.studiocat.com/3/index.php/Home is an example of one such builder but there are many companies who build PC's for music work. Chris P.S. Also consider that you're going to spend about a third more on equivalent hardware in a Mac as you will in a PC. At 12:26 PM 6/12/2013, you wrote:
This is why I want one. I have been considering running Sonar with Cake Talking in Windows 7 on a Mac Pro using Bootcamp for quite a while. Perhaps all of my audio latency problems will finally go away. Bob. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:31 PM To: midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Redesigned Mac Pro Coming In Autumn Quoting from a press release at: http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=16257 Announcement of a completely redesigned Mac Pro. The new model, slated for an Autumn release trades features a much smaller cylindrical design, only ten inches tall. Any expansion of the new Mac Pro, which is conspicuously assembled in the USA, must be done externally, via the four USB 3 ports, two Gigabit Ethernet ports or the six Thunderbolt 2 ports. The Thunderbolt 2 standard, incidentally, is twice the speed of the previous Thunderbolt and allows data transfer rates up to 20Gbps and connection of up to six devices per port. Speed is king with the new Mac Pro and the design incorporates Intel Xeon E5 CPUs with up to 12 cores, 1866MHz DDR3 RAM, and PCIe-based flash storage, which is over twice as fast as regular flash storage. On top of this, the Mac Pro will be the first computer to ship with dual AMD FirePro graphics cards, which can output 4K video. Although it's branded as the "future of the pro desktop" by Apple, the Mac Pro's lack of internal expansion and optical media drive, combined with its unusual shape, may frustrate Pro Tools and UAD users, recordists running a mobile rig or composers using large sample libraries that are impractical to download. However, the speed of Thunderbolt 2 makes an external PCIe chassis more than possible, and optional external optical drives have been available from Apple for some time. It will probably only be a matter of time before a third party comes up with a way of rack mounting the new hardware as well. As well as the Mac Pro redesign, the Macbook Air range has also been updated to feature faster processors and improved battery life now at a claimed 12 hours for the 13-inch model. Although in a real-life recording scenario this would likely be significantly shorter, it might well give you enough juice to get through your recording session if you forget to bring the charger. -------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING, affordable and professional mixing and mastering: http://www.ctsmastering.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CTSMASTERING BLOG: www.ctsmastering.com/blog Linked In: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/chris-smart/46/824/536 Dropbox, Share Files Easily: http://db.tt/bQ2GuIt PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectúq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq
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