Hi all, First, no real progress has been made on the installation problem I have been seeing. CakeWalk seems to think everything is fine since I could get the installation to proceed by pressing the cancel button a few times. I saw this with another program recently as well. Okay, my question is where can I get instrument definitions for a Roland KR 4500 keyboard? I've looked around the Roland site but can't find anything. I know this is an old model. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kim -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of hf Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:12 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: To MP3 or to not MP3 Yes, the letter M is the time bookmark. HF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ilkster" <The_Ilkster@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: To MP3 or to not MP3 > The bookmark feature in Winamp seems to only bookmark files in a group of > files, not timepoints in a given file. Is there such a way to bookmark a > timepoint in a file using winamp? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hf" <neep23@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:03 PM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: To MP3 or to not MP3 > > >> Winamp is free and fully accessible. >> It plays most audio formats. >> www.winamp.com >> HF >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ilkster" <The_Ilkster@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:01 PM >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: To MP3 or to not MP3 >> >> >>> Thanks everyone for the good ideas(winamp & daisy). And yes, Kevin, I >>> realize the structure of a project file. The .cwp file is only a >>> handful of K, while the audio wave file is the culpret-nearly a half gig >>> in size. I found another solution using Sonar-and it seems to work >>> fairly well-especially since it allows me to stick to using sonar >>> exclusively. The solution: >>> >>> What I've done is to compress the audio as an MP3 file-reducing the >>> audio from 480 meg in its wave form to 50 meg as a mp3. Then, using the >>> delete dialog, delete everything except the markers, and then save the >>> project. Finally, clean the audio folders with the tools menu option. >>> Now the massive wave file is gone, but the .cwp and the mp3 file remain. >>> To use the project, I simply load the saved .cwp file which has nothing >>> but the markers, and import the mp3 file and the markers align to the >>> expanded mp3 audio file-back in business minus the half gig storage >>> costs. >>> >>> Granted, its a two step process, but I'll be doing quite a few of these >>> tapes, and want to keep them readily available without chewing up a >>> large chunk of my 80GB audio storage. Without the compression, 20 or 30 >>> such tapes would run into 10 to 15 GB, which is unacceptable. >>> >>> That Winamp thing looks pretty good though as well. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kevin L. Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxx> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:03 PM >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: To MP3 or to not MP3 >>> >>> >>>> First, understand that just because the size of a CWP file says .5mb, >>>> it >>>> doesn't actually mean that the size of the file is only .5MB. That's >>>> the size of the project file. It references a .WAV file that is >>>> probably pretty damned big. You're best shot is to save these things >>>> as >>>> .CWB files and back them off your active drive to some other reliable >>>> storage media. That way, when you need them, you can reload them and >>>> all your marker data will be there for you. >>>> K. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of Ilkster >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:41 PM >>>> To: ddots-l >>>> Subject: [ddots-l] To MP3 or to not MP3 >>>> >>>> >>>> I am using Sonar to convert audio taped conversations , typically an >>>> hour or >>>> so in length, to Computer files. These tapes are running approx .5 GB >>>> each >>>> when stored as CakeWalk projects. Of course, I can convert them to MP3 >>>> files and save huge amounts of storage. However, I have many markers >>>> in >>>> >>>> these files which I'd like to keep, and converting to an MP3 file for >>>> storage purposes will lose the markers. >>>> >>>> Is there any way to save the markers, short of writing them down in a >>>> Notepad text file and storing it alongside the mp3? >>>> >>>> >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >>> Subject:- faq >>> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >> Subject:- faq >> >> > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the > Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq