[ddots-l] Re: Fw: [MIDI-MAG] Fw: Talking Voltmeter from Omega who doesn't want to sell to blind users!
- From: "Kevin L. Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:18:39 -0700
What is the meter for? What does it do?
Kevin
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Subject: [ddots-l] Fw: [MIDI-MAG] Fw: Talking Voltmeter from Omega who
doesn't want to sell to blind users!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Richer" <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <MIDI-MAG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 6:36 PM
Subject: [MIDI-MAG] Fw: Talking Voltmeter from Omega who doesn't want to
sell to blind users!
> I posted earlier that I thought the offending company was Oregon
> Scientific but it seems that I was wrong. Please see the following.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Epley" <gregepley@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Talking Voltmeter
>
>
> > I'm going through that very thing with Omega right now. I received
> > an
> HHM2
> > for my birthday this year; I've had the page on their web site
bookmarked
> > for around 3 years, and never in all that time have they ever had
anything
> > posted about a visually impaired warning. As of May 2nd 2005, still
> > no warning; that has appeared since that time, and not as a result
> > of a purchase of a unit for me. I contacted them about a fault in
> > an
optional
> > accessory part and, not knowing any such warning, mentioned I was
visually
> > impaired; I also briefly mentioned how many years I had been working
with
> > electronics and meters. I mentioned to them twice now that I've
> > never - even in my sighted years - do any risky measurements with
> > any previous meters - and being blind now why would I start now? If
> > nothing else I'm going to be even more cautious now and let a
> > sighted person do the measurements with my meter.
> >
> > About four days later, a large, mysterious box delivered by FedEx
revealed
> > two checks - one for $316 and one for $100. The enclosed letter
revealed
> > this "no exceptions policy" - the $100 was a "birthday gift", and of
> course
> > the $316 was to reimburse my relative for the purchase of the meter,
which
> > Omega expected me to return to them.
> >
> > I immediately sent them a very firm email regarding the whole
> > situation. For one thing, just because one is "aware" a customer
> > "has" a device is
> not
> > grounds enough to rob that person of the independence that device
offers;
> > whether Omega "knows" I have one doesn't change the bottom line that
> > (a)
a
> > visually impaired person has the device and (b) that person can at
> > some future point, due to their own stupidity, attempt to take some
> > legal
> action
> > against Omega as a result of injury suffered due to such incorrect
> > use.
> (a)
> > and (b) are still the case whether Omega "knows" of such users or
> > not,
and
> > their attempts to "clear" sales by phone isn't going to stop a damn
thing
> > (but then that course was most likely suggested by a bunch of legal
> advisors
> > and executives whose blood flow to their brains is cut off by
> > neckties
or
> > pantyhose).
> >
> > As an aside to this "knowledge" of such visually impaired users,
> > just because I "know" something doesn't mean anything; I have free
> > will; I
> worked
> > at a bank fairly high up in IT for many years prior to going blind,
> > and
as
> > such became aware of names and accounts and balances that I will
> > never forget. Nevertheless, just because I'm walking around out
> > here in the
> world
> > with that knowledge means that I must exercise free will and not
> > share
> that
> > info with anyone; the same can be said of many other practicies and
> policies
> > one picks up working most anywhere - just because you know some bits
> > of
> info
> > doesn't mean anything unless you intentionally misuse that knowledge
> > for your own gain or someone else's loss; exercise your free will to
> > not do
> the
> > wrong thing and what's the harm?
> >
> > I currently don't know if I'm going to be allowed to keep my meter
> > or
> not.
> > I'm going to fight it and have warned Omega of this, to not blow
something
> > out of proportion that doesn't need to be, and that I will contact
> > media sources if they so choose to do so. Omega is trying to do
> > nothing more
> than
> > cover their ass for being stupid enough to not post the "warning"
> > they
now
> > have on their site. As my purchase was made prior to any such
> > warning,
> and
> > as my product does not appear to include the warnings they say are
there,
> I
> > can't see they have a leg to stand on. Their letter speaks of this
> warning
> > being on the product and in the manual. I can't speak for the
> > manual at this time, but I have had both the product box and the
> > product
thoroughly
> > scanned by a sighted person or two and there is no such "warning" on
> > it, likely because it was on a warehouse shelf somewhere and not
> > "new"
stock.
> > At any rate, Omega is over a barrel right now - I have product and
> > two checks totalling $416. I have no intention but to eventually
> > shred the checks, but I've outlined that to Omega on a dated
> > timeframe.
> >
> > I can certainly understand Omega's caution to sell to visually
> > impaired customers. However, they could achieve a much better
> > customer situation
> for
> > any visually impaired customers they become "aware" of by simply
> > getting their stupid legal department to draft some sort of "waiver
> > of
liability"
> or
> > something to that effect. Perhaps that's not workable due to some
> > other legalities with the visually impaired, but I fail to see how
> > what
they're
> > doing is any better or different. I've never been put into a
> > situation
> like
> > this, where I was denied service because I'm this or that, and right
> > now
I
> > don't know how it's going to turn out.
> >
> > Agreed with the warning that if anyone wants one of these products,
> > I
echo
> > loudly do not tell them you are visually impaired! I plan to
> > continue
> this
> > practice with anything I buy in the future, irregardless of how this
turns
> > out - never tell any product manufacturer you are blind, or God only
knows
> > what Pandora's box you will open up.
> > -Greg
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Talking Voltmeter
> >
> >
> > > Iomega Engineering sells a talking multimeter. Be advised,
> > > however,
> that
> > > you
> > > *definitely *do *not want to tell them you are visually impaired
> > > if
you
> > > orddr
> > > one. It is their belief that blind people are not competent to
operate
> a
> > > multi-meter, and another person from a different list who had to
> > > have
> his
> > > unit
> > > repaired, they refused to repair it after finding out he was
> > > blind. Instead, they sent him a full refund of his purchase price.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > Lansing, MI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindtech/
> >
> > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > blindtech-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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