[ddots-l] Re: Etiquette and Verbosity

  • From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:45:49 -0800

By the way, it's not just me who's offended. I have friends from foreign
countries who are offended as well. 

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:10 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Etiquette and Verbosity

Wow.  I hope that rant was supposed to be off list?  talk about off topic.
(and by the way, if you think being called lady is torture, then perhaps you
should pay attention to what's happening to people in Haiti, iran, cuba,
Somalia, etc.  Get a grip princess.  And yes, what I just wrote is off topic
too.  But, with the problems in the world, it sounds like you need a bit of
a priority check.  If you can rant about the common vernacular for 2 pages,
then I hope you expend more energy and or resources to help the homeless,
starving, abused, the truly repressed, etc because otherwise, that would be
extremely selfish.)


-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:51 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Etiquette and Verbosity

Okay, enough. I'll not ever call you a lady.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 09:40
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems


One way I'm pedantic is when people call me names that offend. For example,
I learned that it's supposed to be very offensive to address a nonroyal
female as "Lady" or "Young Lady". However, my family disagrees with me,
because they don't look into the history of what they say. This is no joke,
and it's not my opinion either. When there's things I like and things that I
don't like, I'd much rather have people say that I'm "Particular". When
people say that I'm "Picky", to me, it means they hate me for my
particularities and who I really am! "Particular" is recommended, "Specific"
is all right, "Finicky" is fine, but "Picky" is taking it way too far! In
regards to what I like to be called as far as terms of endearment, any
little term of endearment is fine with me. My family calls me things like
"Honey", "Babe", "Sugar", "Darling", "Sweetheart", "Deary", "Sweetie Pie",
"Dear", "Sweetness", and "Honey Bunny". My friends call me things like
"Hon", "Dear", "Sweetie", "Honey", "Babe", "Sweetie Pie", "Darlin'", and
"Sunshine". Some people call me "Love", which I don't mind at all. One of
those instances is when I met Singer/Songwriter Ben Taylor, the son of
Singer/Songwriters James Taylor and Carly Simon. When I heard him call me
"Love", I smiled sweetly. At least he didn't call me "Lady" or "Young Lady".
If he did that, I wouldn't want to be his friend! Which that would've broken
my heart, since I love him like he was my brother! He's just about as young
as I am, except that he was born on January 22, 1977. So, I'd say he's still
in my group of society members. My mom has even made a cutesy name for me,
"Honeybelle", which is a combination of "Honey" and "Annabelle". In regards
to what I don't like to be called, it's usually anything that associates
with the terms "Lady", and "Young Lady". I especially don't like to hear of
females outside of the royal families being addressed in this manner. One of
my music teachers says that because I hate these terms, he thinks I'm being
"Insincere", "Cold", Insensitive", "Sarcastic", and any other bad adjective
that you can think of. This teacher of mine is supposed to be my friend, but
I just can't seem to make him understand! My mother, for whatever perverse
reason, says to me that "I'm the only one out of billions of people in the
whole world that is offended with this term". However, I've done research
over many years, and it states that "Lady" and "Young Lady", when referring
to non-royal females, are supposed to be very demeaning, degrading, and
condescending. As a child of the eighties, born on July 15, 1984 to be
exact, I was taught, along with many other children of my generation, to
shun those in society who even dared use the terms "Lady" and "Young Lady"
when referring to females that aren't part of the royal families. You may
find this a bit shocking, but I refuse to go into a bathroom with a sign
that reads, "Ladies", because that's not what I am! In fact, the companies
and facilities that are known for this hayness offense should look into what
the term "Lady" means, and no, I don't mean the modern-day definition that
you find in dictionaries these days. I mean the one that was clearly made in
England! And, these companies should rip the "Ladies" signs off the
bathrooms and change them to either "Women" or "Girls". If one bathroom sign
reads "Ladies", shouldn't the other one read "Gentlemen"? After all, the
counterpart of a "Lady" is a "Gentleman". With the term "Young Lady", when I
was growing up, and even to this day, the only way I've heard it being said
is in angry tones by Mothers and Fathers, especially when their daughters
are still baby girls! I often go into a murderous rage, and my blood begins
to boil over like a steaming hot tea kettle whenever I hear the terms "Lady"
and "Young Lady", whether it's being said to or about me or any female. Even
the facial expression that I give when I hear these terms, which is where
you'd see my bottom front teeth sticking out forward, as if I'm about to
bite somebody, is just enough to drive anyone to tears. I actually did that
to my hairdresser one day, when she called somebody that, and when she saw
that expression, she didn't run away from me, but rather, she turned to me
with tears in her eyes. I thought she was faking it at first, you know, fake
tears and boohoos, but then I realized it when I felt her face, and it was
all wet. She told me, "Have mercy, Babe. I didn't mean to offend you." My
maternal Grandmother, Grandma Pat, has called me this term, mostly in angry
tones by the way, the worst of it was given to me when I was eighteen! This
horrible incident happened when we were grocery shopping one warm summer day
in August of 2003, particularly to buy food for me. It seems she pulled my
last strings, and then we were fight-ting! I happened to stumble across
something on my shopping list, a Marie Callender's Spaghetti Entree to be
exact, and Grandma went scouring the frozen entrees section, only to find
out they didn't have any. So, being the Dirty Dawson that she can be at
times, Grandma tried to talk me into buying something different. This led me
to say, "But I don't want that kind, I want this kind!" This prompted
Grandma to get up all her nerves, and say something to me that I hope one
day she'll regret! I don't remember all of what she said, but I do remember
that she started off with a stern, "Young Lady!". To this day, Grandma's
hurtful words are still clawing at my heart like an angry sea turtle! I wish
I could just have a talk with her, but all she wants to do is tell me that
what I say about this term is incorrect. Yuck-a-doo! What the heck does she
think she's talking about? I'm so much smarter than she gives me credit for.
My paternal Grandmother, Grandma Dorcas, whom I never got along with, told
me that if I didn't address any females as "Lady" Or "Young Lady, she would
slap me in the face! May Bruce Springsteen have mercy on her soul! That's
why, when I become a mother, I've made a vow never to call my daughters
"Lady" or "Young Lady", no matter how old they may be. By the way, I've
never ever ever ever called any female a "Lady" or a "Young Lady", and I
refuse to do so, because I do not now, nor will I ever, have any reason to
talk to or about the royals. I will make this a house rule, that the phrases
"Lady" and "Young Lady" should never be said in my home, since the house
rule that I have will consider them to be profanity. The rules in my house,
which will be known as "The House Of Philadelphia", will clearly state that
no matter who comes over, this means you, "Lady" and "Young Lady" are
impolite terms, they are verboten, and they are not to be said under any
circumstances whatsoever, especially when referring to little girls! If
anyone says these terms, they are to put $10 into a jar each time. For any
uses of profanity, they are to put $15 in the jar. Over time, all this money
will be donated to the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. This means you!
Good citizens like you and I, should never say "Lady" or "Young Lady"! And
we should never spit out profanity! Eventually, when I have children of my
own, if, heaven forbid, my sons or my daughters would dare call anybody a
"Lady" or a "Young Lady", I would wash their mouths out with soap until they
had the barf ups! That would definitely teach them to respect their mother
and father! I apologize for the cruel and unusual punishment of soap in the
mouth, but I was unfortunate enough to have that done to me by my mother,
even though I did nothing to deserve it! Here's how it happened. When I was
four years old, something was going on, where Amber and I were just playing
with each other. We were just having a random conversation about stuff we
liked, when Mom, suddenly overhearing a little bit of profanity, finally
came in and said, "Taste this!". Then, without any warning, she scraped a
bar of soap across my teeth. I haven't the faintest idea what kind of soap
it was, but I do remember that it definitely tasted like poison! Mom needed
a moment to realize that it was not me, but rather, it was Amber who did
wrong. She spit out some random profanities, and then she went and did like
so many siblings do --- she turned around and placed the blame on me! To
tell you the honest truth, I'm sick of all these yucky feelings, and I feel
so bruised and battered by all of this torture of being called "Lady" or
"Young Lady! So you see what I mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:18 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems

Okay, then I see its genetic, and you just can't help yourself. But keep in
mind that some of us are mere humans and even though our mistakes may be
evident to all, it can hurt, to have them pointed out.

As long as we understand what they meant, using context we're okay with
that.

I, too tend to be pedantic.

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 09:10
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems


I got my so-called "Pedantic" side from both my Grandmothers, who were very
strict with languages. My maternal Grandmother, who by the way is still
living, is also into hypercorrection.

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:05 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems

Annabel,

Somehow, I just knew you would ask, since you are rather literal and caustic
with mistakes that you catch on these lists. Okay, here's the definition
from Wiktionary :

pedantic
1. Like a pedant, overly concerned with formal rules and trivial points of
learning.
2. Being showy of one's knowledge, often in a boring manner.
3. Being finicky or picky with language.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 08:41
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems


What do you mean when you say "Pedantic"?

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:34 AM
To: ddots List Server
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems

Annabel,

At the risk of sounding pedantic, you need to get some grounding in your
electrical if you're serious about audio production. That requires an
electrician to quote you the cost to run those wires in your home.

You also need to read the past messages and make note of the recommendations
from Steve on using audio isolators in the audio cables. These are also
called audio isolation transformers, and also decouplers.

Good luck.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 07:01
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems


I have a similar situation with the power supply in my computer. I just
found out, that when I'm running some of my music machines, I get this
strange digital grinding noise. I found out that this noise is caused by the
power supply on my computer. The power supply I have is one of those ones
with three prongs, while the electricity in our house is only designed for
two-pronged cords. Since these noises are not something I want to have in my
audio recordings. I found out that by unplugging the power supply from my
computer, it takes the noises away. However, I'm afraid to run the machine
on battery power for more than an hour, since that could make the battery go
dead. What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Brierley
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:02 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems

Yep, only joking.  Just a nick name for the electricity.

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren H
Sent: 26 January 2010 14:36
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems

I think he was joking.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:29 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems


> Messing around with the lightning? That's interesting. What do you mean by
> that?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Mark Brierley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:45 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I shall definitely try that.  Sounds a lot safer than messing around with
> the lightning!
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
> Sent: 26 January 2010 09:39
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> My lap top was also built for me purely as a music computer.
> The thing about lap tops is, Some of the circuitry is not insulated that
> well which can caurse audio noyce.
> Tthis happens even on expensive lap tops as they are not quite as
> inserlated
>
> as say a PC.
>
> It was a high noice I was getting on my lap top, it also would disappear
> when using the battery power.
> I simply plut the male phonos from the Ground Loop Iserlater into the
> audio
> outs on my Fast Track Pro Sound card then plug the audio cables that go to
> my mixer into the female phonos on the Ground loop iserlater.
> I'm almost certain a Ground loop icerlater will work.
>
> Try this first before messing with electrics.
>
> Steve W
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Brierley" <mark.brierley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:03 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems
>
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Many thanks to you and all the others for the ideas.
>>
>> I'm not sure whether Steve's solution would work as my laptop is
>> connected
>> via firewire to an FW1884.
>>
>> Like you, i'm pretty sure its not a ground loop.  The frequency of the
>> noise
>> is far too high for that.  I'm using a 3 pin plug as i'm over in the UK.
>> I've tried plugging it in on the same outlet as my mixer and speakers
>> etc.
>> I have also tried to plug it in in another room, but the problem
>> persists.
>>
>> I'm not subscribing to the midi mag list at the moment.  I however will
>> try
>> your other suggestions, and would like to thank you all again for your
>> help.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
>> Sent: 25 January 2010 18:10
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: laptop power problems
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Follow-on. Dennis' suggestion of the power outlet brings up a couple
>> other
>> thoughts.
>>
>> 1. Make sure your power outlet (ac mains) is truly grounded and. If your
>> ac
>> mains plug for the power supply is a two-prong plug, then make sure
>> you've
>> got it plugged in with the correct polarity.
>>
>> 2. Make sure that you plug your power supply into the same outlet (or at
>> least the same circuit) as your mixer, keyboard, and other audio gear, so
>> that they are all on the same phase of the feed power coming in to your
>> building breaker box. If you connect equipment to two different phases of
>> the power input (two different circuit breakers) you can have a voltage
>> differential between the neutral and/or hot lines.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Mark Brierley <mailto:mark.brierley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 08:54
>> Subject: [ddots-l] laptop power problems
>>
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a quick question which might be very difficult to answer!
>>
>>
>>
>> I've bought a new laptop for my pro audio setup.  The laptop is custom
>> built
>> by Music PC in the UK.  I plugged it all in with my gear over the
>> weekend,
>> and get a horrendous high pitched noise over my speakers and mixer.  It
>> is
>> quite clearly the power supply, as when the laptop is running on
>> batteries,
>> there is no noise at all.  I have had this problem a couple of times when
>> out doing live shows, but never really found the solution.
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I right in saying that it isn't a ground loop?  It is my understanding
>> that ground loops are at a far lower pitch.  If anyone has got any ideas
>> on
>> how to get rid of this horrible noise, I would be very grateful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
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