In a message dated 6/1/04 9:33:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, phymur@xxxxxxxxxx writes: cuffy--click on the icon beside Updates and select the USA site rather than Europe. Should get the d/l from there without difficulty MW Got it ! Thanks........ I think they had exceeded their bandwidth allotment. On 1 Jun it worked fine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't. -- Pete Seeger"