The only real boot-up/login security on a windows machine is using a boot mananger like system commander.. That'll require a password before you get to windows, which is the only time it's not possible to hack into it anyway. As far as idiots go, I don't see anything wrong with using 16bit software under win98 if it's faster and more stable? I've been using win98 without explore or IExplore for several weeks and it's definately faster and crashes less. If that makes me stupid then you can stick with your buggy machine. -Changa http://changa.cjb.net ¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org