Alright, I know... But I did it anyway. I sent in a formal RFD (Request for Discussion) for an unmoderated Calmira newsgroup. comp.os.win3x.shells.calmira It'll be about a month before there's any vote upon the creation of the newsgroup. Reid http://reid.tk sneak preview of the site to come- http://snow.prohosting.com/~rsolberg/beta.html -- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit //freelists.org