[BNU] Re: Emergency admin's letter (please read): respect other members, respect guidelines, respect authority
- From: Andres Romero <andres4799@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:11:54 -0700
True. Because you could look up list archives using a search engine.
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> On Nov 22, 2013, at 11:55 AM, "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Dear BrailleNote Users list members:
> Hope you’re enjoying a wonderful weekend.
> I have enjoyed reading all sorts of posts, starting from KeySoft 9.4 previews
> to browsers on other products and so on. However, as a result of recent
> posts, it has become clear (to admins and others) that there are some things
> that should be brought forth before you: respect. Specifically, I would like
> to talk about three respectable areas: people, guidelines and authority.
> Before I begin, I’d like to extend a warm welcome to our new members. We hope
> you’re enjoying your stay on this list. Please remember that the replies will
> go to sender – if you’d like to see your replies here, please use reply to
> all function in your email pages/clients. Thanks.
> Now to the topic at hand:
> First of all, I’m glad that there is a support list for a product like
> BrailleNote. This allows users around the world to sit down together and talk
> about various aspects of a product, namely new releases, troubleshooting tips
> and so on. However, what good is this when there is no respect among members?
> So I would like to kindly advise that we think about two things in regards to
> respecting others: am I here to serve and learn, and are my posts and
> attitudes reflect how I wish to be treated. Without respect for other members
> (especially when people say to stop something), there would be chaos, right?
> Second, it has been brought up both onlist and offlist that we have a number
> of users who continuously find ways of getting around loopholes in the
> guidelines. Personally, I am willing to forgive off-topic posters, but the
> topic of respecting the guidelines is such an importance that I would like to
> say something about it here: please respect guidelines set forth for this
> list, especially when it comes to off-topic posts. Specifically: we do allow
> occasional comparisons between products, but excessive posts about browsers
> installed on other products and how to use it to download something is, in my
> humble opinion, off-topic (and Alex asked that the topic in question be
> closed, so please respect his words), since it might be confusing for new
> users.
> Lastly, we have moderators for a good reason: to serve as your servants in
> list-related matters and to try their best as negotiator among members. I can
> say that both mods on this list are busy with our lives as well (Alex is
> doing some podcasts and what not, and I’m a part-time contributor to NVDA
> project). Despite our busy lives, what helps us enjoy our given job as
> moderators here is the passion that people display for BrailleNote and some
> useful potential of BrailleNote family. And one thing we can say is that we
> do not wish to be dictators, imposing moderation for no reason, and since we
> want to be your servants and sometimes negotiators, we often ask kindly for
> compliance with guidelines (personally, I don’t say harsh things against
> members, partly because I want to show respect, and partly to show that I’m a
> fellow list member like you). But one thing to remember is this: please
> respect authority, not as people to be worshiped, but out of respect for
> fellow list members and guidelines.
> In conclusion, there is a saying I like which describes mailing lists (which
> applies to our conduct): we are the living billboards. In other words,
> whatever we say or do will clearly show up somewhere – through list archives,
> through mentions by other users, talks amongst members themselves and so on.
> But not only this, but whatever our conduct is, it’ll leave a greater
> impression on the product itself: BrailleNote family of products (as much as
> the device itself leaves impressions behind, one’s perspective of a device
> also depends on its users, and in this case, our conduct).
> So as we go through this weekend, let us stop for a second and think about
> our conduct on the list for the past few weeks, and let us also think about
> our conduct in relation to how our conduct would represent the product we use
> to the world.
> Thanks.
> Have a wonderful weekend.
> Sincerely,
> Joseph Lee
> University of California, Riverside
> One of the BrailleNote Users list admins
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