[brailleblaster] Re: Windows Exec for LibLouisUTDML
- From: Keith Creasy <kcreasy@xxxxxxx>
- To: "brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:53:17 -0500
The ones I've looked at were not ready to print and did nothing with math and
science notation.
Keep in mind that APH uses the BANA standards for braille textbooks and there
are a lot of specific details about how a finished book should look.
You're right, for quick and dirty literary braille the Bookshare files are OK,
especially if you are just reading it on a display. Of course, if you're just
reading it on a display it probably works better to just use the DAISY file and
let your screen reader translate on the fly.
K
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Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: Windows Exec for LibLouisUTDML
I did get a Bookshare brf file of a novel. It looks ok except that it doesn't
contain some headings that my dtbok.sem and preferences.cfg specify. It also
contains all upper-case letters, which is annoying on my braille display.
John
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 10:20:39AM -0500, Keith Creasy wrote:
> OK. That sounds good then.
>
>
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> Boyer
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>
> TOC and page numbering are controlled by the configuration file. By default,
> the preferences.cfg file is used. it is set up for 32 cells per line, no
> braille page numbers, no braille page forms feed, but print page separators.
> The configuration file can also be oferridden with -C options. The arguments
> accepted by the BrailleBlaster translate subcommand are exactly the same as
> those accepted by file2brl. The documentation on these options is complete
> and up to date.
>
> I'm going to get a Bookshar brf file and see what they are doing.
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 09:57:29AM -0500, Keith Creasy wrote:
> > Well, I'm looking for one with MathML too. I did as you said and it isn't
> > too bad. I'm not sure the margins are right in some places and we'd like to
> > get TOC and page number additions in there. The LibLouisUTDML docs say this
> > can be done.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
> > Boyer
> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:55 AM
> > To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: Windows Exec for LibLouisUTDML
> >
> > Bookshare is using liblouisxml, or they were, last I heard. I've also heard
> > that their formatting is bad. Personally, I don't use Bookshare brf files.
> > I download the Daisy version and make my own translation with
> > liblouisutdml. This enables me to optimize the braille output for my
> > braille display. I can send you a resulting file privately if you wish.
> > If I could get my hands on a NIMAS file that contains MathML I would try it
> > with the BrailleBlaster translate subcommand.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 09:23:46AM -0500, Keith Creasy wrote:
> > > Yes, but Bookshare's BRF files are aweful. I'm hoping to do better.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J.
> > > Boyer
> > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:12 AM
> > > To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: Windows Exec for LibLouisUTDML
> > >
> > > Hi Keith,
> > >
> > > No need to worry about a Windows version of file2brl. You can use the
> > > translate subcommand in BrailleBlaster to get identical results. The Java
> > > bindings in liblouisutdml contain a method that emulates file2brl.
> > > People are already using the translate subcommand to produce brf files
> > > which can then be embossed.
> > >
> > > I have tried translting a NIMAS file with excellent results. The comand,
> > > using BrailleBlaster, is:
> > >
> > > java -jar brailleblaster.jar translate input file outputfile
> > >
> > > Almost everything in the liblouisutdml documentation is implemented.
> > > Because of the pressure of simply coding, there are many features in
> > > liblouisutdml that are not documented. The most important of these us the
> > > Unified TactileDocument Markup Language (UTDML) which is designed to
> > > handle text ang graphics in a transcriber-friendly manner.
> > >
> > > Nemeth translation of MathML is the default. Other math codes can be
> > > chosen with the appropriate configuration file.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 08:37:39AM -0500, Keith Creasy wrote:
> > > > Guys.
> > > >
> > > > The subject line may be a little misleading. Actually, what I'd like to
> > > > get a sense of is how far along this is in terms of producing a good
> > > > braille book from a DTBook (actually NIMAS) in our case. I read the
> > > > docs to liblouisutdml and it looks great based on that. File2brl seems
> > > > to be set up to build and run using GCC on Linux. I could probably get
> > > > it to build for Windows with a few days work but I'd like to know the
> > > > best way to get as good a demonstration as I can producing a braille
> > > > book (BRF files) from a NIMAS file set, including trnslation of MathML
> > > > to Nemeth.
> > > >
> > > > How much of what is in the docs is implemented and what do you suggest
> > > > I do to get a good demonstration of this working on a Windows work
> > > > station.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > > Developing software for people with disabilities
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > Developing software for people with disabilities
> >
> >
>
> --
> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> Madison, Wisconsin USA
> Developing software for people with disabilities
>
>
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John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities
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