[bookshare-discuss] Re: bookshare process.
- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:28:52 -0400
I download the books in the .bra format, as I have a braillenote that I
listen to them on.
Others download the daisy ones, and either user the Victor player available
on the site, or else use a scanning program like Open Book or Kurzweil to
read them, or they use the .html file and save it as a text file or what
have you and use a screen reader, or a text to speech program, or even a
screen magnifier to read them that way.
Lots of choices.
Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Advisory Council
www.guidedogs.com
The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to
stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
-- Vance Havner
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] bookshare process.
Thanks for that info, Shelley. I was especially
interested in #6. Sometimes when I tell people about
bookshare (trying to get more volunteers) they want to
know how you all "read" the books. I had thought maybe
the readers converted, but now I see that you can
download in whatever form you want to read. What
format are books in that people listen to?
Cindy
-- "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Hey Lisa, and lissy, and all.
>
> A book can be fixed and resubmitted.
>
> In fact I do this all the time.
>
> So some clarification.
>
> What Lisa was asking about was a book in the
> collection.
>
> Here is the process a new submission goes through.
>
> 1. Submitted by a scanner.
> 2. downloaded by a validator, and checked over, or
> edited at the validators
> discression.
> 3. Uploaded by validator and goes into the
> Administration approval pile.
> 4. Administrator approves the book,
> 6. File goes through a bunch of automated programs,
> including a braille
> translator, a header stripper, and a Daisy
> converter, to make the files we
> see on the site, is also compacted, and put into the
> .bks format with the
> password.
>
> Now, this is what you can do if you want to fix up a
> copy that you see lots
> of errors in.
>
> 1. Rescan and submitt a new copy.
> 2. Download the Daisy copy of the book, save the
> .html file as a .rtf. Then
> edit the file, and resubmit as a "new copy".
>
> And make sure to remove your fingerprint, all the
> copyright stuff at the top
> first.
>
> But I hope it clears it up a bit.
>
> I replace books all the time, excellent for fair
> copies, or good copies if i
> am interested in the book and have the time.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> Graduate Advisory Council
> www.guidedogs.com
>
> The vision must be followed by the venture. It is
> not enough to
> stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
>
> -- Vance Havner
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:28 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: the magic of
> thinking big.
>
>
> Dear Lisa, Shelly and All,
>
> Lisa, your questions are exactly about Book Share
> procedures I don't
> understand. I'm glad you are asking and hope to
> learn the answers along with
> you.
>
> Shelley, do you mean that once a book is validated
> it can't be fixed anymore
> even if it has many errors and a reader is willing
> to improve it? I'm just
> trying to understand the way things are done and I'm
> asking you because I
> gather you use braille, as I do, and that you have a
> lot of experience.
>
> I'm still too confused and haven't contributed a
> word, yet, but I'll get
> there.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Always Turning Pages,
>
> Lissi.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lisa Hall" <lhall10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: the magic of
> thinking big.
>
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I also have downloaded the daisy version of the
> book as well. I also have
> > the html version of the book that the unpack
> utility made for me as well.
> > If
> > I have to do all the corrections to this book,
> I'll need to find a sighted
> > reader since I have the print book and will need
> to probably create the
> > .txt
> > version of the file before submitting the book
> once the correction is
> > made.
> >
> > I believe there is a lot of work to do. I'll need
> to dig up the file I
> > received when I first joined bookshare a couple of
> years ago I think.
> >
> > I'll probably need to get in touch with whoever is
> in charge of
> > coordinating
> > whatever needs to be done.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lisa Hall,
> >
> > Consultant for Adaptive Technology for Northwest
> Vista College, a college
> > of
> > the Alamo Community College District.
> >
> > Web page: http://home.satx.rr.com/lisahall
> >
> > Phone: (210) 829-4571
> >
> > E-mail and MSN I.D.: lhall10@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shelley L. Rhodes
> [mailto:juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:00 AM
> > To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: the magic of
> thinking big.
> >
> > Braille files, are run through Duxbury before
> being put onto the site.
> >
> > If you would like to refine the .bra copy and
> resubmit it, then the
> > Braille
> > will be correct, but the file, is that way when it
> is sent to the
> > translator
> >
> > and then put onto the site. Human intervention
> besides the validation of
> > the original .rtf file is not done, as frankly it
> would take a long time,
> > smile.
> >
> >
> > Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
> > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> > Graduate Advisory Council
> > www.guidedogs.com
> >
> > The vision must be followed by the venture. It is
> not enough to
> > stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
> >
> > -- Vance Havner
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lisa Hall" <lhall10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "'bookshare-discuss list'"
> <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:26 AM
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] the magic of thinking
> big.
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am reading a book called the Magic of Thinking
> Big by David Joseph
> > Schwartz that was submitted by Monica Svopa.
> >
> > According to the web site on bookshare, there is
> no ISBN submitted, no
> > synopsis submitted, and no rating submitted which
> I think is optional. It
> > says that the book is excellent with little or no
> errors, however, when
> > reading the grade 2 braille file, there are
> translating errors. There are
> > no
> > beginning and ending computer Braille code,
> however, it was written in
> > Grade
> > 2 Braille which is incorrect if you want to follow
> BANA standards. Does
> > anyone know if this book have been validated and
> check for errors in
> > proofreading? The page number and chapter numbers
> run close together and
> > there is no paragraph indicators from what I can
> tell. There are letter
> > sign
> > indicators in the document which should not be
> there. I don't know if any
> > of
> > the headings have been centered in print at all. I
> am reading the book
> > with
> > PacMate BX400 and PM440 braille display. Does
> anyone know what Braille
> > translation program was used to process these
> books? I haven't check the
> > daisy format of the book to see where paragraphs
> are put in.
> >
> >
> >
> > As some of you know, I am a certified Literary
> Braille Transcriber as of
> > April 29, 2004 after submitting my trial
> manuscript back in March 2004. I
> > made a score of 90 out of 100 which is a passing
> grade. The minimum score
> > is
> > 80 points or better. As of May 9, 2005, I walked
> across stage with
> > standing
> > ovation wearing cap and gown being the first blind
> person to go through
> > the
> > Braille Textbook Transcriber Program at Northwest
> Vista College. I am now
> > doing a temporary 6 week contract with the school
> writing policies and
> > procedures on students who request materials in
> alternative format. The
> > school have had some combination of books obtained
> from the publishers and
> > some that we had to scan ourselves. Scanning and
> cleaning the book is a
> > very
> > time-consuming process when a student is
> requesting material faster than
> > we
> > can process them. What have some of you done to
> process them. Do you have
> > the work contracted out to a certified Braille
> transcriber?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been busy updating my web site and will be
> working with faculty and
> > staff on web accessibility, accessing pdf
> documents and getting pdf
> > documents tagged properly so that it can be more
> accessible to people with
> > disabilities.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone is welcome to view my web site and it's
> listed below my signature.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lisa Hall,
> >
> > Consultant for Adaptive Technology for Northwest
> Vista College, a college
> > of
> > the Alamo Community College District.
> >
> > Web page: http://home.satx.rr.com/lisahall
> >
> > Phone: (210) 829-4571
> >
> > E-mail and MSN I.D.: lhall10@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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