Well no. The caps lock backslash seems to work. It throws me when I'm kicked back to the top of the page, but when I find the book in the new books list, the choice is usually there. Thanks for the info.
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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:33 AM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Using Window-eyes and the Reading Lists Feature
Oh ... oh, that problem. Yes, I think I understand what you're
referring to. It's possible that the only way to stop that software
from tying up your HP keyboard is through the BIOS with sighted help.
HP would certainly know.
I did report this issue to GW Micro's technical support and they
responded and told me they would look into the problem.
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lana wrote:
I think that part of the problem is that I have an HP. It does some things differently. For instance, to use one of the function keys, f-2 and so on, you must also press the function key down below, and maybe that key just left of the delete key isn't an insert. Maybe the only insert key I have is on the numb pad. At least I got something that works. Thanks.-----Original Message----- From: David Goldfield Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:09 PM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Using Window-eyes and the Reading Lists FeatureLana, A few things come to mind. First, if you're having trouble either using or locating the insert key on your keyboard, you could set up window-eyes to use the caps lock key instead of the insert key, which could make it easier to issue commands which are specific to window-eyes. Also, you could set up a different hotkey for the screen redraw or refresh command that might be easier to use, such as alt-r or shift-alt-R. GW Micro's support could help you with this or I could assist offlist. I'm not able to do phone support right now but I could email instructions or answer questions, if needed. I'm not, in any way, a GW Micro employee and so I don't wish to step on their toes. <smile> David Goldfield, Assistive Technology specialist --------- Visit my Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield On 7/31/2014 6:58 PM, lana wrote:Well, sort of. I have a laptop, but it includes a numbpad. I ended up using the backslash on my regular keypat with the insert from the numbpad. Either that button just to the right of the f-12 isn't an insert, or my comptuter does strange things. Now. All I have to do is remember. By the way, and I do have the latest window eyes update, it doesn't say save page, just add to reading list. Interesting, though, is that there is a blank line if I arrow up from the key in question. It doesn't do me any good, though. Thanks for the information. My History for the past month is getting pretty full because I download a book I might read so I won't forget it is there.-----Original Message----- From: David Goldfield Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:31 AM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [bookshare-discuss] Using Window-eyes and the Reading Lists FeatureHello. During the last phone meeting of the Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the blind and visually Impaired, one of the callers, who I believe may be on this list, brought up a problem she was having using Bookshare's reading lists feature with the Window-eyes screen reader. She indicated that, when choosing the add to reading list link, she was not able to locate the combo box which provides the names of the reading lists you can choose for adding the desired book. I didn't have a copy of Window-eyes at home and so I wasn't able to do any testing during the conference call. However, I had a theory which I offered, being that window-eyes wasn't seeing that the screen had refreshed after choosing the add to reading list link. I've had a chance to do some experimenting and have confirmed that this is, in fact, the problem. For those who are using Window-eyes and are experiencing this problem, I'll outline the workaround. Before I go any further, I'll say that the problem does not occur with JAWS or with NVDA. First, I'll explain that I'm using version 8.4 of Window-eyes, which is the latest version as of the time of this writing. I'm running it on a Windows 7, 32-bit system and tested this problem with both Firefox 31 and Internet Explorer 11. I believe the caller was using Firefox and the behavior is slightly different, depending on which browser you're using when adding a book to your reading list. First, let's start with Firefox. Go through a list of books on Bookshare and find a book that you want to add to your reading list. Look for the "Add to Reading List" link. Window-eyes will read it as "same page link add to reading list." Once you've found this link, press enter. At this point, the page changes slightly and there should be a combo box, probably just a bit above where the virtual cursor is located. The combo box gives you a list of the different reading lists you might have created. As an example, with my account the combo box has items such as General fiction, General nonfiction, science fiction, catholic, etc. Other screen readers are able to detect that the page has changed and you will probably have little or no difficulty in locating the combo box. However, window-eyes is unaware that the page has changed so it will seem as though nothing has happened after you pressed the enter key. To force window-eyes to take a second look at the newly modified page, use the screen refresh command, which is insert-backslash by default if you're using the standard desktop keyboard layout. If you're using the laptop keyboard layout, use caps lock with the backslash key. If you happen to be using what they call the insert key layout, which is pretty much a JAWS keyboard layout, you can also use insert-escape. Window-eyes will say something like "screen refreshed." At this point, you may be thrown back to the top of the screen if you're using Firefox and you'll need to go back to the book you wanted to add. If you're using Internet Explorer, window-eyes is a bit better at preserving your place and you'll be pretty much where you were before you refreshed the screen. At this point, you'll see an additional combo box with the names of your reading lists, along with an "add" button to add the book to the list you select. As with any combo box, you'll need to press enter while you're focused on it which will exit browse mode, allowing you to freely move about the combo box to select your reading list. Once you've selected the reading list you were looking for, press the tab key and you should be focused on the "add" button. Press spacebar or enter and the book should be added to the reading list you chose. It is likely that the folks at GW Micro, now AI Squared, are already aware of this issue. Just in case they are not, I will send them a bug report before the end of the day. As I said, users of JAWS and NVDA won't have this problem. Choosing the "add to reading list" link will allow you to instantly locate the combo box to choose the reading list. 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