[bookshare-discuss] The Northwest Passage

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:08:13 -0700 (PDT)

The question would be, does going under the ice cap
count as going through the Northwest Passage or
circumbenting it? smile Now if the sub tried it
staying in the surface...

I remember reading many years ago Kenneth Roberts'
Northwest Passage (re-issued in 2001 in paperback). I
see we only have two of his novels in the collection.
For those interested in the historical novels set in
early U.S., he's a wonderful writer, and more of his
books should be in the collection. Apparently Major
Robert Rogers "...himself commanded the first real
"commando" unit [during the French & Indian War] and
he is the father of all subsequent outfits like the
Green Berets, the Navy Seals etc.

Cindy


--- talmage@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> The bit about only seven through the northwest
> passage isn't really 
> all that accurate.
> Nuclear Subs travel routinely from New London,
> Charleston, Norfolk, 
> etc. to the Bering Sea, and hang out, under the
> Arctic ice cap.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 06:40 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote:
> >Amundsen was also the first expedition leader to
> take a team to the 
> >South Pole, beating Robert Falcon Scott's team by
> over a month, and 
> >also surviving, unlike Scott.
> >
> >You can read about it in the incredible book I
> submitted to 
> >Bookshare called, The Last Place on Earth, by
> Rolland Huntford -- 
> >it's dual biography of both Scott and Amundsen.
> >
> >The most famous ill-fated expedition in search of
> the northwest 
> >passage was the Sir John Franklin effort of the
> 1845 which resulted 
> >in every one of 129  men dieing.  It was the
> moonshot of the 19th 
> >century.  Ironically, there have been eight
> successful voyages to 
> >the moon, only seven through the northwest passage.
> >
> >I have a pretty extensive collection of books on
> arctic exploration 
> >which I suppose I could submit if folks are keen.
> >
> >Brian Miller
> >00
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mailto:agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Amy
> Goldring Tajalli
> >To:
>
<mailto:bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:06 AM
> >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: Brian's
> teaching
> >
> >Cindy,
> >
> >I am not Brian (obviously) but happen to notice
> this so thought I 
> >would save some time; Look in Wikipedia under
> Northwest Passage and 
> >you will find Amundsen as the one (first?) who
> succeeded and a list 
> >of those who failed and died and/or lived. He also
> flew over the 
> >North Pole (first) in an airship piloted by Umberto
> Nobile and the 
> >two fueded about who should have gotten credit for
> that 
> >accomplishment as Amundsen was the head of that
> expedition.  You may 
> >be familiar with part of that Story from the movie
> The Red Tent. I 
> >am sure Brian will give you a more concise answer -
> you know I tend 
> >to give much too much - but I could spend a week in
> Wikipedia just 
> >with those two or following everything in the
> section on the 
> >"Northwest Passage" and another month following
> connections from 
> >there. Have fun.
> >
> >Amy
> >
> >P.S. Do get The Red Tent. It is a marvelous movie
> and as far as I 
> >can tell or heard it is not far from the history.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Grandma Cindy"
>
<<mailto:popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To:
>
<<mailto:bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:06 AM
> >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: Brian's
> teaching
> >
> > > Interesting. What us your dissertation on.
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > >
> > > --- Brian Miller 
> >
>
<<mailto:brian-r-miller@xxxxxxxxx>brian-r-miller@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Actually, I m not with the University of Iowa
> > >> anymore -- that is, I am not
> > >> teaching there right now.  I currently work for
> the
> > >> U. S. Department of
> > >> Education.  I am a U-Iowa alum, however, and I
> > >> taught both Spanish and
> > >> History there, as well as completing my
> master's in
> > >> education, a teaching
> > >> credential, and most of my doctorate (which I
> am
> > >> still working on, which is
> > >> why I still have the U-Iowa address).
> > >>
> > >> Brian
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Grandma Cindy" 
> >
>
<<mailto:popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: 
> >
>
<<mailto:bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 5:22 PM
> > >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] OT: Brian's
> teaching
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > I see you're at  the U of Iowa. What do you
> teach?
> > >> >
> > >> > Recently there was a program on either the
> History
> > >> or
> > >> > the Discovery Channel about a group of late
> 19th
> > >> or
> > >> > early 20th-century explorers who were trying
> to
> > >> find a
> > >> > passage through the Arctic from the Atlantic
> to
> > >> the
> > >> > Pacific and got stuck. It sounds somewhat
> > >> > similar--maybe that's where the novelist got
> his
> > >> idea.
> > >> > Unfortunately, there were no survivors from
> that
> > >> > expedition.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cindy
> > >> >
> > >> > --- Brian Miller 
> >
>
<<mailto:brian-r-miller@xxxxxxxxx>brian-r-miller@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Thanks Shellie, this one is especially
> terrific
> > >> -- I
> > >> > > used to teach a course
> > >> > > on arctic exploration, and I wish I had
> this
> > >> novel
> > >> > > when I taught as I would
> > >> > > have added it to my reading list.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Brian Miller
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: "Shelley L. Rhodes"
> > >>
>
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> > >> > > To: 
> >
>
<<mailto:bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 2:00 PM
> > >> > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Just
> Submitted:
> > >> > > Afterlands
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > That one sounds really good.
> > >> > > > You always pick some great stuff.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
> > >> > > > and Judson, guiding golden
> > >> > > >
>
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> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > From: "Brian Miller"
> > >>
>
<<mailto:brian-r-miller@xxxxxxxxx>brian-r-miller@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > > > To: 
> >
>
<<mailto:bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:33 PM
> > >> > > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Just
> Submitted:
> > >> > > Afterlands
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > All,
> > >> > > > I have just submitted for validation the
> > >> > > following:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Afterlands, a novel, by Steve Heighton,
> > >> Haughton
> > >> > > Mifflin, 2005, pp 400.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >From the book jacket:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > THIS GRIPPING NOVEL OF ARCTIC survival,
> is
> > >> based
> > >> > > on one of the most
> > >> > > > remarkable events in polar exploration.
> In
> > >> 1871,
> > >> > > off the coast of
> > >> > > Greenland,
> > >> > > > nineteen men, women, and children,
> voyaging on
> > >> the
> > >> > > Arctic explorer USS
> > >> > > > Polaris, were cast adrift on a large ice
> floe
> > >> as
> > >> > > their ship began to
> > >> > > > founder. Afterlands is the story of this
> small
> > >> > > society of castaways a
> > >> > > white
> > >> > > > and a black American, five Germans, a
> Dane, a
> > >> > > Swede, an Englishman, and
> > >> > > two
> > >> > > > Inuit families  as they try to survive a
> > >> six-month
> > >> > > winter ordeal,
> > >> > > struggling
> > >> > > > with the harsh elements and with one
> another,
> > >> the
> > >> > > group splintering into
> > >> > > > factions along ethnic and national lines.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Steven Heighten provocatively fills in
> the
> > >> blanks
> > >> > > of the documented
> > >> > > history
> > >> > > > of this event by focusing on the
> suspicions,
> > >> the
> > >> > > hunger-induced delusions,
> > >> > > > and the unrequited longings among three
> > >> members of
> > >> > > the group: Roland
> > >> > > Kruger,
> > >> > > > an educated, witty, rebellious German
> seaman;
> > >> > > Tukulito, or "Hannah," the
> > >> > > > party's Inuit interpreter; and George
> Tyson,
> > >> the
> > >> > > American ranking officer,
> > >> > > > who later wrote an account of the
> experience
> > >> that
> > >> > > solidified his
> > >> > > reputation
> > >> > > > as a hero while casting Kruger as the
> villain.
> > >> > > Throughout the novel,
> > >> > > > Heighten incorporates passages from
> Tyson's
> > >> > > contentious account, then
> > >> > > > daringly imagines the aftermath of the
> ordeal,
> > >> > > following Kruger, Tukulito,
> > >> > > > and Tyson as they attempt to move beyond
> their
> > >> > > searing memories and resume
> > >> > > > their lives in the larger world.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Combining the high drama of Arctic
> survival
> > >> and
> > >> > > the psychological
> > >> > > intensity
> > >> > > > of modern theater, this beautifully
> written
> > >> novel
> > >> > > powerfully addresses
> > >> > > > themes of belonging, nationalism, and
> love in
> > >> > > times of crisis.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > ***
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > This is an awesome book, and I hope
> someone
> > >> picks
> > >> > > it up soon.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Brian Miller
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
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