[bookshare-discuss] Guido
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:08:01 -0800 (PST)
Oh, I am *so* glad you are back, Guido. I know I wrote
before but I can't help but smile and write again
after reading this.
Are you inventing any machines these days?
Cindy
--- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Roger, the only issue is that the entire topic is
> out of bound to the
> subject of this list. In the same way, my opinions
> on matters that may
> be of passionate interest to me, such as the
> geographic distribution and
> speciation of Cyprea arabicula, whether or not
> zapping a conductor with 1
> million volts in a Tessla device can be deemed
> Quantum Tunnelling, or the
> contestation of the age of the cretacean Iridium
> boundary, are all
> irrelevant to this board. Whether or not I can find
> friendly or
> opposing views to my extremely strong opinions on
> such topics, I would
> still be out of order, unless I were to ask
> bookshare-related questions
> such as. . .
>
> Are there bookshare books that can help me to
> research patterns of
> speciation in isolated populations of C. arabicula?
>
> Saluti, Guido
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: (512) 286-5794
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> 'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a
> fuzzy concept'
> Ansel Adams
>
>
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> Believe it or not, people who have different
> opinions than yours are not
> necessarily angry and bitter. If you think you have
> gotten to know an
> imaginary being you might have a hard time
> understanding that, but it is
> true. I think you will also find it much more
> liberating to form your
> opinions by basing them on objective reality rather
> than unfounded
> assumptions. That way you will not presume to know
> anything about another
> person's experiences without even knowing that
> person. Believe me, seeking
> and finding truth is an extremely gratifying thing
> to do and has to beat
> just claiming something to be the truth without even
> trying to test it
> against reality.
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> Roger,
>
> I'm sorry that you have had such a bad experience
> with religion that you
> have become angry and bitter. As for me, coming to
> know God was what freed
> me
> from the confines of "Religion." You see, I believe
> there is a big
> difference. Now, if you were not so angry, you would
> not have responded to
> the notice
> about the Christian book thing. I didn't respond to
> a notice about fantasy
> books, even though I'm not particularly interested
> in them.
>
> Your quick response tells me you're still
> hurting--and for that I am
> really sorry.
>
> Shirley
>
> P.S. I didn't remove my name from the list because
> others of you out there
> have had some interesting things to say. I seldom
> jump in, but I am
> learning
> a lot
>
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> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed
> The Troll - smile
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> Your point is quite legitimate. It is interesting
> that those who object to
> the pot being stirred are at the same time
> vigorously stirring the pot. It
> is
> as simple as this. If I am looking at a message that
> I have a response to
> then, like anyone else, I respond to it. In the
> process of making those
> responses
> I am bound to express my opinions. If you don't like
> those opinions -- and
> I am using the universal you here -- then, really,
> honestly, think about
> it,
> that really is just tough shit. The plain fact is
> that there are a lot of
> people in this world whose opinions you are not
> going to like and if you
> open
> your mind enough to accept that then I guarantee
> that you will be a lot
> happier. Opening your mind may run counter to what
> you have been taught in
> church,
> but churches, despite what they might say, are in
> the business of
> controlling you, not ensuring your personal
> happiness. I will also point
> out that even
> though I have never been a believer myself I have
> known any number of
> atheists who were former religionists and their
> stories are very similar.
> The story
> is always one of accumulating doubts and discomfort
> with their upbringing
> and that is usually rather sad, but the part where
> they put their
> upbringing
> behind them and finally break with religion is an
> entirely different
> matter. They always describe it as the most
> liberating experience in their
> lives and
> one of the most liberating parts is that they can
> finally disagree with
> others without feeling a self destructive gnawing
> hatred inside. It still
> remains,
> though, that if you have not had that liberating
> experience and it upsets
> you so much to hear an opinion that is different
> from your own you can
> minimize
> exposure to those opinions by not denigrating them
> and thereby provoking
> the person with the different opinion to respond to
> you.
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> I'mnew to thislist but it seems to me that if people
> don't react the pot
> in
> effect hasn't been stired. And, this really doesn't
> help any of us who
> need
> help or want to discuss Bookshare right?
>
> -Diane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:18 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed
> The Troll - smile
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> > It is interesting, isn't it? Most discussion
> lists get a person who
> > trolls, sooner or later. Usually the list manager
> puts a troll on
> > moderate so that they don't get the opportunity to
> constantly stir up
> the
> > pot. Since Bookshare hasn't ever assigned an
> active list manager to
> this
> > list, as far as I've ever seen, the only way left
> for the list members
> to
> > handle a troll is to ignore the posts made by that
> individual every time
>
> > they begin trolling. smile.
> >
> > Judy s.
> >
> > Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
> >> Thanks, Judy. That's really interesting. I'd
> never
> >> heard that term before.
> >> smile
> >>
> >> Cindy
> >>
> >> --- "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Cindy, Sharon and Patti, Roger is trolling every
> >>> time someone posts regarding Christianity, and
> has done so since
> >>> he came on the list.
> >>>
> >>> If you're not familiar with the term "troll" or
> >>> "internet troll," here's a definition from
> Wikipedia:
> >>>
> >>> "An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet
> >>> slang, is someone who posts controversial,
> inflammatory, irrelevant or
> >>> off-topic messages in an online community, such
> as an online
> >>> discussion forum or chat room, with the
> intention of provoking
> >>> other users into an emotional response or to
> generally disrupt
> >>> normal on-topic discussion"
> >>>
> >>> The best way to handle trolling (again I'll
> quote
> >>> from Wikipedia, as they put it well) is simple:
> "Do not feed the
> >>> troll." You'll find that abbreviated as
> "D-N-F-T" or "D-F-T-T" in
> >>> Internet slang.
> >>>
> >>> Put simply: you'll drive yourself crazy by
> getting
> >>> sucked into a discussion with someone who is
> trolling. Consider
> >>> just ignoring a troll's posts when he or she is
> trolling. Provoking a
> >>> response is what a troll enjoys. Roger himself
> has posted
> >>> here that he loves to stir things up just for
> the fun he gets out
> >>> of it. grin.
> >>>
> >>> Judy s.
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