Stole this from another list where they were discussing things like game documentation in various different formats, etc.: ---quoted message content--- I think the best example of braille size was my schools copy of the pocket dictionary in braille. Bare in mind the phrase "pocket dictionary" a book which all the other kids doing english were lent a copy of and which was, ---- as the name implies pocket sized. The braille version was 18 volumes, each of which was slightly larger in size than an A 4 sheet of print paper, with hard bindings and a good three or four inches thick! (they were around 80 braille pages each). I think the only way that could be a pocket dictionary is for the Big friendly giant! :D. ---end message content--- Makes me wonder - how much space would something like the encyclopedia britannica take up in braille format..? <smile> And, lastly, yes, I do agree/believe that braille is a valuable resource/medium, etc., but, yes, the sizing/dimensions of braille print are going to sometimes be an issue, and, no, I don't honestly use braille for more than labelling, minor forms of note taking, and only know basic braille, but, still... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'