blind_html Debating.

  • From: "Jim Lu." <jimlu3665@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blind_html@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:49:52 -0600

I find it very interesting that people came over to this list to debate things 
and then when one starts debating them with them they get all hot and bothered. 
 They accuse you of slander and then leave the list.  I wonder if somebody 
could help me out here.  Isn't a debate when 2 or more people get together to 
talk about pros and cons of one thing or another and try to make their point 
understood?  

Isn't a debate when you try to make your views on a topic clear and the reasons 
you have these views?  So, this leads me to this question.  If I use situations 
or people from the past to prove the point that I'm trying to make, does this 
mean I'm slandering these people?  

It seems to me, that the person making these accusations should in effect look 
at exactly what he was doing.  For example, the subject line red necks.  OK, we 
all joke about people being red necks and sometimes there are people who fit 
the stereotype.  However, to call people red necks because they have different 
views than you do, now to me this is slander.  How about the word ignorant.  
Generally this means that a person is not knowledgeable about a particular 
subject.  So because somebody is ignorant on a subject, does this mean that 
they don't know much about it or does it mean they are stupid.  Well, it means 
that on that particular subject they don't know a lot about it. So this leads 
me to think that because people didn't vote for the winning party in this 
situation this makes them ignorant?  Oh no, not so at all.  When this statement 
was said it ment that we didn't agree with what he said, there for we were 
ignorant and our opinions were uneducated.    I can only hope that not 
everybody who voted for Obama is like the person I am talking about in this 
post.  If they are, then I'm afraid for our country.

You know, another thing that's bothering me, even this morning yet is that on 
the 4th we elected a new president to lead us for the next 4 years at least.  
What's making me sad is that even though I didn't vote for him I'm ready to 
stand behind him and support him, but the only thing I'm really hearing is how 
historical it is because we elected a black president.  I'm hearing about how 
it's going to give the blacks in the US the motivation to move forward because 
now they can be somebody.  You know the fact is they could have been somebody 
before if they'd have wanted to.  And look, there are some who have.  I don't 
want to know these thins, they are facts and don't need to be covered.  What I 
want to know is now that he's my president, what is he going to do. How's he 
going to bring on all these changes he promised and is it really going to work. 
   What do I as a citizen have to do to help make these things happen.  I'm not 
learning any of this because the media isn't telling us. They don't want us to 
know because it don't make an interesting news story.  

Any thoughts on this?

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