Richard,
Well, perhaps it isn't blindness that's the issue here. I suspect that there
are other blindness email lists which might just quietly accept all of your
posts with no comment or with no objection. I think the issue here is that
members of this particular list tend to have strong opinions and they are
members because they like to express those opinions and to debate. Also,
the majority of people on this list, whose opinions I'm familiar with, tend
to be politically left of center. So if you post articles which express a
right wing viewpoint, it's very probable that you'll see responses to those
posts. But its my experience that the blind community as a whole, tends to
have right wing viewpoints. So on many other lists, most likely there'd be
agreement.
Miriam
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Miriam:
It seems to me that I have a 'different' outlook on things when I compare
the opinions I hear from our Blind Contributors and the other non-blind
group with which I associate either by written material or sometimes by
verbal material. I do not know if they accept my 'preparations'. However I
do know that they seem to be less troubled by my meanderings.
Richard
On 4/6/2016 11:26 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Dick,will
Would a group of sighted people more passively accept what you prepare
for them?
Miriam
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Carl and All:
From the standpoint of a person who has vision but has worked with a
blind group for about 20 years I comment as follows:
(1) It is very difficult to prepare a comment for this group or any
group of blind people.
(2) No matter how narrowly defined or not narrowly defined it will
'antagonize or irritate' one or more of the contributors.
Richard
On 4/5/2016 10:47 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Richard and All,18
My concern was that this was very selective, very narrow, very
specific examples of the never ending killing that seems to preoccupy
Mankind. One only need to glance at the evening news to learn that
war, killing, murder, violence and retaliation are the major items of
interest.
We serve no positive purpose by identifying our killers as all Muslim
Males. A similar list could be drawn up identifying young male Free
Irish. We might show that the colonists had no other choice but to
wipe out the pesky Red Savages, by naming a list of Indian Males who
went about killing our White Fathers...and Mothers.
Such lists are of no historical value. The basic thrust is to drive
wedges, to turn one group of people against another. We do not need
to tell our children that it was Muslims who were the violent
aggressors. Murder is rampant across the Planet, and growing faster
than a speeding bullet.
Out of historical curiosity, can you name an equal number of Muslim
men who stood for peace?
What about a list of Christian Men? One of peace defending Mexicans?
What about a list of brave peace loving Women? And could we find an
equal number of corporate CEO's who are promoting peace?
Good luck with that last one!
Carl Jarvis
On 4/5/16, Richard Driscoll <llocsirdsr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl and All:
This type of historical information is indicative, in this case in
my opinion, that there had been a goodly bit of armed confrontation
between the so called Western World and the so called Eastern World
and it would appear that it is continuing on in this day and age. It
does not mean that one group is better than or worse than the other.
It might indicate that the wars fought did not settle anything on a
permanent bases and it my perhaps indicate the western world and the
eastern world did not learn anything from the armed conflicts noted.
Richard
On 4/5/2016 12:06 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
This is the sort of "thinking" that assures us that there will
always be murder and torture. I mean, how could we, the Righteous
descendants of good, loving, Christian Europeans ever sit down with
those murderous, mindless Muslims? Despite having no blood on our
God Fearing hands, they come around taking what we've earned, fair
and square, slitting our throats in the deal, Well, all of us who
buy this crap are just as mean spirited and underhanded and
murderous as are those many Male Muslim Men.
I used to say that we were indeed a ship of fools. Now I have
altered that to say, a ship of murderous fools.
Shame on anyone who passes this biased drivel along.
Carl Jarvis
On 4/5/16, Richard Driscoll <llocsirdsr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Some historical information I found it to be very interesting and
informative.
**Ask any person, not your child between the
ages of
and 25, if they ever heard of the Nuremburg
Trials. 1 in
13 might say they have, but will not be able to
tell you
"what" was on trial (not who). Those same people
willPresident.not be able to tell you the name of the Vice
not84% of those who receive this will not read it
completely, or at all. 10% will but will also
chose
throughto forward it. The remaining 6% will forward
it.****
**The war started in the 7th century and lasted
butthe 17th century. I would contend it never
stopped
historically the facts below are correct.**
**This is why I choke when I hear someone say we
maybedefeat or contain these Islamic terrorists in a few
years or even 30 years as recently stated by
Leon
Panetta.**
**If the latest batch of murders, beheadings, and
killing of innocent Christians has shocked you,
factsyou should read this compilation of historical
andabout the hatred of Muslims.**
**WE, THE STUPID****
**This is factually (and historically) correct -
oftheverifiable:**
**In 732 A.D. The Muslim Army, which was moving on
Paris, was defeated and turned back at Tours,
France, by
Charles Martell.**
**In 1571 A.D. The Muslim Army/Navy was
defeated by
Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the
Mediterranean to attack southern Europe in the
Battle of
Lepanto.**
**In 1683 A.D. The Turkish Muslim Army, attacking
Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle
Americanon-existent;Vienna by German and Polish Christian
Armies.****
**This has been going on for 1,400 years and
half of the
politicians don't even know it.**
**If these battles had not been won, we might be
speaking Arabic and Christianity could be
Judaism certainly would not exist.**
**Reflecting: A lot of Americans have become so
insulated from reality that they imagine that
acan suffer defeat without any inconvenience to
themselves. Pause a moment and reflect
back.****
**These events are actual events from history. They
really happened!**
**Do you remember?**
**47 years since 1968 and this just keeps going
on and
on.**
**1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
andathletesMuslim male.****
**2. In 1972, at the Munich Olympics, Israeli
eventuallywere kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.**
**3. In 1972, a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and
withdiverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final
approach. Shortly after landing it was blown up by
Muslim males.**
**4. In 1973, a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in
Rome,
by33 people killed, when it was attacked with
grenades
byMuslim males.**
**5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken
over
Muslim males.**
**6. During the 1980's a number of Americans were
kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.**
**7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut
was blown
up by Muslim males.**
**8. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was
hijacked
and a 70-year old American passenger was murdered
Muslimthrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim
males.**
**9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at
Athens, and
a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was
murdered
by Muslim males.**
**10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by
themales.**
**11. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed
Tanzaniafirst time by Muslim males.**
**12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and
Centerswere bombed by Muslim males.**
**13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked;
two were
used as missiles to take down the World Trade
Muslimtheand of the remaining two, one crashed into the US
Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed
by
passengers. Thousands of people were killed by
andandmales.****
**14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in
Afghanistan against Muslim males.**
**15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was
kidnapped
twobeheaded by - you guessed it - a Muslim male.
(Plus
other American journalists who were just recently
beheaded).**
**16. In 2013, the Boston Marathon Bombing
resulted in
4
Innocent people, (including a child) being killed
killing264 people injured by Muslim males.**
**No Obama, I really don't see a pattern here
to justify
profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never
offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on
winnerus, airport security screeners will no longer
be allowed
to profile certain people.****
**So, ask yourself "Just how stupid are
we???"****
**Absolutely No Profiling! They must conduct random
searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline
pilots with proper identification, secret
agents who are
members of the Obama's security detail, 85-year-old
Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor
Malesand former Governor Joe Foss, BUT...leave
Muslim
---alone lest we be guilty of profiling.****
**Ask yourself, "Just how stupid are we?" Have the
American people completely lost their minds or just
their Power of Reason???**
**As the writer of the award winning story "Forrest
Gump" so aptly put it, "Stupid Is As Stupid
Does."**
****
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