[blind-democracy] Re: Abortion Clinics, White Christian Terrorism, and GOP Candidates

  • From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:03:01 -0500

That would be fine if the main stream media used the term for all
terrorists. But the point of this article is that the media tends to use the
term only for terrorists who claim Islam as their motivation.

Miriam

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All:
May I suggest that we discontinue the use of descriptive nouns in our
discussions and insert a blank space thus "_______________ Terrorist".

We cn also use other forms of terror such as terrorism, terroristic,
terrorizer, and so forth.

R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.

On 11/29/2015 10:01 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:



Cole writes: "Americans are more at risk from violence by armed
white
Christian fanatics than they ever were from Muslims."

A man displays a Confederate flag during a Ku Klux Klan rally on the
grounds
of the South Carolina Capitol in Columbia, South Carolina. (photo:
Erik S.
Lesser/European Pressphoto Agency)


Abortion Clinics, White Christian Terrorism, and GOP Candidates
By Juan Cole, Informed Comment
28 November 15

Americans are more at risk from violence by armed white Christian
fanatics
than they ever were from Muslims.
Abortion clinics have been targeted for violence by fundamentalist
Christians of a violent bent for decades. In 2009, Dr. George Tiller
was
relentlessly shot to death by Scott Roeder, who insisted that the
good
doctor was satanic because he performed abortions. Dr. John Britton
was
murdered in 1994 on similar grounds. A strain of Christianity in the
United
States has never accepted Roe v. Wade, which made it a woman's right
to have
an abortion. Not accepting it for oneself is a matter of conscience,
and
there is nothing wrong with that. But not accepting it for other
people is a
form of coercion aimed at depriving them of a legal right.
Deploying violence against people to halt abortions is the textbook
definition of terrorism, which in the 1990s the Federal Code
sensibly
defined as non-state actors using violence against civilians to
achieve a
political aim. Much violence and coercion at Planned Parenthood
(only 3% of
its activity has to do with abortion) is inspired by Christian
fundamentalism.
On this point, Christian ultra-conservativism agrees with the point
of view
of the Malik school of law among Muslims. In essence, Christian
terrorists
are attempting to move the United States on the below map away from
a modern
European norm, where abortion is elective up to a certain point in
pregnancy, to an Afro-Asian and Maliki Muslim norm where it is often
forbidden except to save the mother's life (or not even then).
There are four legal schools within Sunni Islam, the Maliki,
Hanbali,
Shafi'i and Hanafi. Ironically, the Hanbali, Shafi'i and Hanafi
schools of
Sunni Islam allow abortion, the Hanafi until day 42, and the Shafi'i
until 4
months- and so they are more liberal on this issue than much
Evangelicalism
or Roman Catholicism. The Qur'an, like the Bible, doesn't mention
the issue.
Even mainstream GOP politicians (and apparently most of the
presidential
candidates) now want to ban abortion even in cases of rape or where
the
mother's life is in danger, exalting the rights of the fetus and its
father
over that of the adult woman. Marco Rubio recently switched to this
extreme
position. Carly Fiorina famously melted down over a figment of her
imagination - a video she said depicted a Planned Parenthood
abortion
wherein the aborted fetus was still alive, a video that does not
exist (and
what she may be referring to was probably footage of a miscarriage
and
certainly not at PP). I.e., the Republican Party is now to the right
of
conservative, Maliki Morocco on the abortion issue, which is
planning to
make the procedure legal in cases of rape or incest.
If a Muslim came on American television and fulminated against
abortion on
the basis of a videotape that does not exist, one can imagine the
reaction-
and that person would now be being accused of incitement, which most
commentators will avoid doing to Fiorina. If a Muslim shot up a
Planned
Parenthood clinic, he'd be sent to Gitmo and the US military would
go on
alert. There is a double standard for anti-abortion terrorists
because they
tend to be white Christians.
What Christian and Muslim absolutists on abortion cannot accept is
that
women will have abortions one way or another, and making them
illegal just
drives them underground and makes them much more harmful to all
concerned.
In Morocco, it is estimated that there are 600-800 illegal abortions
every
day, which take a toll on women's physical and mental health. That
is
roughly 2.2 million illegal abortions every decade in that country.
Unlike
states such as Texas, which have found ways of closing almost all
abortion
clinics in the state, Morocco is actually somewhat liberalizing its
law.
More like the conservative US position is Saudi Arabia. Wikipedia
notes:
"Abortion in Saudi Arabia is only legal if the abortion will save
the
woman's life or if the pregnancy gravely endangers the woman's
physical or
mental health.[1] In Saudi Arabia, any approved abortion requires
consent
from three physicians as well as the patient and her husband or
guardian.[1]
If an abortion is performed on a woman for any other reason, the
violator
may be required to pay blood money to the fetus' family.[1] Laws
explicitly
deny abortion to families who fear financial instability or an
inability to
provide the child with education."
The same Christian fundamentalists who fulminate most loudly against
"sharia
law" (medieval Muslim canon law) are perfectly happy to impose their
own,
Christian sharia on secular American society. Some of them are
willing to
deploy violence to that end, making them religious terrorists. But
on this
issue, there increasingly isn't much difference between the American
Republican Party and the Wahhabi clerics in their Riyadh madrasas.
In both
cases, religious, theological doctrines are being made the basis of
public
law, which is un-American and actually unconstitutional (the First
Amendment
refers to that as Establishment of religion, which it forbids).

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A man displays a Confederate flag during a Ku Klux Klan rally on the
grounds
of the South Carolina Capitol in Columbia, South Carolina. (photo:
Erik S.
Lesser/European Pressphoto Agency)

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Abortion Clinics, White Christian Terrorism, and GOP Candidates
By Juan Cole, Informed Comment
28 November 15
mericans are more at risk from violence by armed white Christian
fanatics
than they ever were from Muslims.
Abortion clinics have been targeted for violence by fundamentalist
Christians of a violent bent for decades. In 2009, Dr. George Tiller
was
relentlessly shot to death by Scott Roeder, who insisted that the
good
doctor was satanic because he performed abortions. Dr. John Britton
was
murdered in 1994 on similar grounds. A strain of Christianity in the
United
States has never accepted Roe v. Wade, which made it a woman's right
to have
an abortion. Not accepting it for oneself is a matter of conscience,
and
there is nothing wrong with that. But not accepting it for other
people is a
form of coercion aimed at depriving them of a legal right.
Deploying violence against people to halt abortions is the textbook
definition of terrorism, which in the 1990s the Federal Code
sensibly
defined as non-state actors using violence against civilians to
achieve a
political aim. Much violence and coercion at Planned Parenthood
(only 3% of
its activity has to do with abortion) is inspired by Christian
fundamentalism.
On this point, Christian ultra-conservativism agrees with the point
of view
of the Malik school of law among Muslims. In essence, Christian
terrorists
are attempting to move the United States on the below map away from
a modern
European norm, where abortion is elective up to a certain point in
pregnancy, to an Afro-Asian and Maliki Muslim norm where it is often
forbidden except to save the mother's life (or not even then).
There are four legal schools within Sunni Islam, the Maliki,
Hanbali,
Shafi'i and Hanafi. Ironically, the Hanbali, Shafi'i and Hanafi
schools of
Sunni Islam allow abortion, the Hanafi until day 42, and the Shafi'i
until 4
months- and so they are more liberal on this issue than much
Evangelicalism
or Roman Catholicism. The Qur'an, like the Bible, doesn't mention
the issue.
Even mainstream GOP politicians (and apparently most of the
presidential
candidates) now want to ban abortion even in cases of rape or where
the
mother's life is in danger, exalting the rights of the fetus and its
father
over that of the adult woman. Marco Rubio recently switched to this
extreme
position. Carly Fiorina famously melted down over a figment of her
imagination - a video she said depicted a Planned Parenthood
abortion
wherein the aborted fetus was still alive, a video that does not
exist (and
what she may be referring to was probably footage of a miscarriage
and
certainly not at PP). I.e., the Republican Party is now to the right
of
conservative, Maliki Morocco on the abortion issue, which is
planning to
make the procedure legal in cases of rape or incest.
If a Muslim came on American television and fulminated against
abortion on
the basis of a videotape that does not exist, one can imagine the
reaction-
and that person would now be being accused of incitement, which most
commentators will avoid doing to Fiorina. If a Muslim shot up a
Planned
Parenthood clinic, he'd be sent to Gitmo and the US military would
go on
alert. There is a double standard for anti-abortion terrorists
because they
tend to be white Christians.
What Christian and Muslim absolutists on abortion cannot accept is
that
women will have abortions one way or another, and making them
illegal just
drives them underground and makes them much more harmful to all
concerned.
In Morocco, it is estimated that there are 600-800 illegal abortions
every
day, which take a toll on women's physical and mental health. That
is
roughly 2.2 million illegal abortions every decade in that country.
Unlike
states such as Texas, which have found ways of closing almost all
abortion
clinics in the state, Morocco is actually somewhat liberalizing its
law.
More like the conservative US position is Saudi Arabia. Wikipedia
notes:
"Abortion in Saudi Arabia is only legal if the abortion will save
the
woman's life or if the pregnancy gravely endangers the woman's
physical or
mental health.[1] In Saudi Arabia, any approved abortion requires
consent
from three physicians as well as the patient and her husband or
guardian.[1]
If an abortion is performed on a woman for any other reason, the
violator
may be required to pay blood money to the fetus' family.[1] Laws
explicitly
deny abortion to families who fear financial instability or an
inability to
provide the child with education."
The same Christian fundamentalists who fulminate most loudly against
"sharia
law" (medieval Muslim canon law) are perfectly happy to impose their
own,
Christian sharia on secular American society. Some of them are
willing to
deploy violence to that end, making them religious terrorists. But
on this
issue, there increasingly isn't much difference between the American
Republican Party and the Wahhabi clerics in their Riyadh madrasas.
In both
cases, religious, theological doctrines are being made the basis of
public
law, which is un-American and actually unconstitutional (the First
Amendment
refers to that as Establishment of religion, which it forbids).
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